"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Confident Persistence vs. Chasing

Serg897

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Hey gentlemen,

Just looking for some general opinions on this. Im sure this isn’t exactly a unique situation yet its one I haven’t run into, surprisingly, in a while.

I generally move fast when I start dating a woman. I escalate and go for sex on the first couple of dates. Often its either a green light or just a clear rejection and I move on (or Im no longer interested).

I’ve been on two dates with this woman. I’ve known her for a few months but have only been on those two dates – always because she is (apparently) busy with family and/or school (nursing student). The thing to keep in mind is that she always gets back to me when I contact her (even if it takes a while) and is always friendly and receptive to my date ideas.

The last date we went on was last Monday. I texted her the Wednesday before asking her what her week looks like and she specifically suggested that day. Both times we went out it was at a bar, salsa dancing. She just let me kiss her both times but didn’t let me escalate beyond that – “I don’t move as fast as you do”. When we were out last Monday I specifically suggested she contact me for racquetball and she agreed, but of course this hasn’t happened (its Sunday – no contact since).

The bottom line is this girl does just enough to make me think she is at least mildly interested but is moving very slow, enough to make me think I might be wasting my time. What would you all do? Im thinking of either trying again and setting up something more intimate and 1on1, or just forgetting about it and concentrate on other prospects.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Johnnyventana

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There's a saying, never give a chick a chance not to contact you.

Instead of asking her to hit you up, tell her you'll hit her up for racquetball. Then take your sweet time in doing so. Then it will be her wondering, not you.
 

Serg897

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Johnnyventana said:
There's a saying, never give a chick a chance not to contact you.

Instead of asking her to hit you up, tell her you'll hit her up for racquetball. Then take your sweet time in doing so. Then it will be her wondering, not you.
Its true - but I dont care. I can easily contact her, ask her out to do something else, and pretend that convo never happened.
 

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For sure you can. Now you are however, in a one-down-position. I would imagine you are on this board, because you do actually care.

Lesson learned with this particular chick - don't give her any more opportunities like this.
 

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You're right of course. I guess when I did it I was of the mentality of being tired of her slowness, and wanting her to prove to me that she is interested enough to keep her word. I knew it was a risk.

I could call her soon. Even tonight. Or I could just wait and pursue other women. She's just another girl.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'd wait another week before reaching out. I'd imagine she has some sense to eventually figure out that not responding isn't always going to work for her. Meaning you may be that one guy who doesn't need her. That may crack her world a little bit.

Which is good.
 

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Well well well, speak of the devil - about 10 minutes ago she texted me for racquetball and/or yoga. I must be doing something right :D
 
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