Confidence DOESN'T attract women

[rakishness]

How did this lie ever begin?

When a women says....I want a guy who is nice, confident and funny.....what she is really saying is.... I HOPE the guy I "LIKE" is nice, confident and funny.

Your next question probably is....how can I be the guy that women "LIKE"? My answer to that is ....who the hell knows...LOL.

Think about it this way.....What if some movie star or rock star absolutely hated himself. He was VERY shy around women. In fact....what if he never even WASHED. Women would still like him regardless of weather he was bold or timid....confident or shy.

Lets stop all the LIES guys.

 

[LA_Chico]

naw bro, confidence is huge

 

[persiangino]

Confidence along with the way you carry yourself are the most important things in sexually attracting women.

 

[ChrizZ]

You are taking celebs as an example. You could weigh 500pds and still the hottest women would fvck you if you have $$$ and social status. Hot women don´t date shy guys. They want leaders aka alpha males that have confidence. Women don´t chase you for no reason. The perfect pua has IMO(in no specific order)

- looks
- confidence
- social value
- good conversation skills
- a sense of humor

If you mastered all of the above you can fvck the hottest babes...

 

[DJinTraining06]

Hes right tho, u can be as confident as u want, if she doesnt find u attractive it dont matter. Now if she does find u attractive then yes it does matter.

 

[Zero Hero]

This guy should be banned...of course confidence attracts women. Ban him ASAP. No joke. Ban Ban Ban. Send a msg to these AFCs.

 

[Scrumtulescence]

This guy is f*cking AWESOME. It takes major skills to type with your head up your ass. I don't know how you do it.

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

Confidence is one of many attractive traits. A very important one at that.

And I guarantee you a lack of confidence is one of the biggest trun offs for women.

So, confidence doesn't absolutely mean you will get a lay but lacking confidence pretty much DOES mean you WON'T get a lay.

 

[~attrACTION~]

What about all those loser emo-guys who talk about killing themselves and still get really hot chicks? How the heck do they do it?

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

What about all those loser emo-guys who talk about killing themselves and still get really hot chicks? How the heck do they do it?

First of all, they attract young girls, not women. Second of all, just because they're emo doens't mean they lack confidence. In fact, it groups them in an easily identifiable category that provides an instant image. Just like punks, goths, skaters and all of your other little cliche cliques that young people use to fake a life or an image or use because they can't assimilate into "normal" society.

Some girls buy into an image or go for the image they themselves assume.
However, these girls are usually young and F'ed up themselves. IOW, they may be hot but they are typically not quality. Of course, if that's your bag then I'm not going to judge. More power to you. (and by "you" I don't mean you. It's not directed to anybody.)

 

[JLW]

This guy is f*cking AWESOME. It takes major skills to type with your head up your ass. I don't know how you do it.

lmao.

I too am fascinasted.

 

[rakishness]

I knew I would get some nasty responses.....hahahahahah.
Example: A guy who CONSTANTLY sarges and hits on women everywhere he goes. He hits on 50 women in a day and gets to lay 5 of them. While the timid guy takes to 1 girl every six months and gets rejected. You might say ....ah.....women like this guy because he is bold. But thats not it.....Boldness just allows a man to "play the numbers game". Bold(confident) guys get women....BUT.....it is not....the boldness that is atracting them. He is just giving himself a better "chance" then the timid guy who rarely talks to girls. Boldness gets you girls tha ALREADY LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Doe Boii]

Haha the problem here is that doesn't get laid and has no confidence in himself therefore he is trying to fvck up everyone elses chances. go get some buddy, but BE CONFIDENT.

Anyway think about who wants a friend who is just a loser and not confident...i wouldnt want to hang with that dude...so why would a woman want an unconfident man...confidence points toward maturity and women love intelligent mature CONFIDENT men.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

So are you saying that insecurity is attractive to women?

 

[rakishness]

Do you know how many guys out there are painfully insecure? They are getting LAID as well. Sheesh.....everyone is little insecure about somethin....sheesh...nobody is perfect. So all of these insecure guys don't get laid? So if you are insecure you can never date a hot women? OFCOURSE NOT

 

[drjekyll]

Ok, if we could all just chill out for long enough to let the smoke settle on this thread, there actually is an important issue seething beneath all this venom just waiting for someone to lift it tenderly into the light of day.

Ok, I guess the issue that rakishness wants to raise is this.

Is confidence good for getting the women who already like you -

OR

Does it have an actual causal impact on the girls who like you in the first place?

First off, I want to just get something out there, which is this. The whole issue about emo guys/goths or whatever is actually very interesting.

Positivity and confidence are TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

I really hate using capitals. It makes me feel like a screechy *****. I wish I could, through the use of eloquent prose, communicate my intent and conceptual content with perspicacity and aplomb. At the same time, sometimes, only capitals will do.

Confidence is not about being chirpy. Some of the most unbelievable naturals I have ever seen - including a man who had something like 3 threesomes with stunning girls (all different chicks) on 3 consecutive weekends (yes, really) was a goth.

He was also mind-meltingly shallow. His job? He was a computer games playtester. I **** you not.

When this guy walked through a room, it was like drawing a powerful magnet through a field of iron filings - women just flocked to him. Even ones who didn't want to. It was weird. It was like watching Angelina Jolie gatecrash a Star Trek convention.

Confidence is not about being positive. It is about expressing everything - EVERYTHING - with confidence.

So that means if you feel like ****, you say it confidently. If you think that life is meaningless, you say it confidently. If you're a ****ing goth (God, I hate Goths soooooooo much) and you express that confidently - you will get laid like a rock star.

Confidently expressing vulnerabilities is one of the most attractive things a man can do.

Make sure they're real though. Otherwise you'll just come across like a freak.

But also - remember - expressing something does not mean you are getting lost in it. You can overcome your vulnerabilities functionally, but they're still with you. You just work around them.

Like a man with one leg. Functionally, he can learn to move as fast as he did with two legs. He can't grow his leg back.

If you're fat, or you're bald, or short, or you look like the back of a bus - don't get lost in that ****. It will only be an irrelevance when you make it an irrelevance to you. Conquer your weaknesses for you, as a person, however you can. Weakness and negativity are two different things.

But negativity, strongly and honestly expressed, can be extremely attractive.

Why?

Because anything that is strongly and honestly expressed can be extremely attractive.

Confidence is not positivity.

Negativity is not weakness.

Confidence is defiance. It is courage. It is the part of you that would fight through fire and hell for something you know is right. It is your strength, your real strength of character, honestly expressed.

And that is the most attractive thing that a man can do.

Period.

 

[Chosen1]

Sometimes you don't need confidence to get women I like what you said there dr. jekyll. Trust me I know about not being confident.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Confidence is not about being positive. It is about expressing everything - EVERYTHING - with confidence.......

....Confidence is defiance. It is courage. It is the part of you that would fight through fire and hell for something you know is right. It is your strength, your real strength of character, honestly expressed.

And that is the most attractive thing that a man can do.

Period.

Confidence = being self assured.

 

[drjekyll]

Confidence = being self assured.

Yes - and that leads in to all sorts of knotty questions about the self. About who you are.

That's why the inner game work on this forum is extremely important.

The best thing to do to start? Think of what scares you and face it relentlessly until it doesn't scare you anymore.

Think of what you want more than anything else and resolve to do it. Then actually do it, no matter what it takes.

Face your fears with women by approaching them relentlessly.

Test yourself.

Test your self.

There's one of my posts that deals with exactly this issue.

Here's the link:

http://sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111192

 

[rakishness]

Confidence is a great trait to have.....no doubt. It is important that all of us act with courage in all we do. BUT......You can have all the courage in the WORLD...if a women "percieves" another man who is a COWARD as more superior than you....she will choose the other man.

Is this a terrible thing....no....remember attraction is not a choice.