"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Confided in her friend, got burned, what next?

Safari

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I took this HB9+ out, a model with her pics up all over town. Everything went good, lots of kino, and I gave her a quick peck goodnight at the end of the night. She then left overseas for two weeks of work.

During this time, I asked her friend... whom I thought was my friend as well... whether model was available. I confided in her about going out and the quick peck... no big deal I figure.

So model comes back to town, but not to my band's club for quite some time... odd I figure.

Finally she comes in, only because her friends wanted to go there. Body language is very bad. She pulls me aside and was furious at me because our "friend" had broadcasted what I said to her entire social circle. It was said as though I was bragging how there was this big thing happening between us. Not true I said, and I explained exactly what happened. Anyway, this rumor apparently caused her some problems. It got back to a guy she was seeing (whom I didn't know about) whom our "friend" had a ONS with and was now jealous. It seems I was used as ammo in revenge to upset that.

I apololgized profusely and was stunned at what happened.

This same night, model and I are both part of the same group for afterhours clubbing. I tried to just have fun and let it go. She was a bit uncomfortable, but sticking by me nevertheless, talking, some dancing, sitting next to me, etc. End of the night, she thanks me for discussing the incident with her. I have her phone# already, but request email. (I was considering owning up to my mistake and writing a more detailed apology.) She says text her and she'll send it. I text... no reply.

One week later, I take a new date out with this group. This new girl and I were really getting into each other, and the model was trying her best to hide her jealousy. Even my date, aware of the situation, mentioned she thinks the model still likes me.

Yet when the date and I later split off from the group, I come to hear that the model (drunk) openly expressed her grudge toward me, but that most of the blame went to the jealous "friend" who really caused the damage.

So I'd still like to connect with the model. I sense a love/hate thing now. I feel my mistake was only a small one and should be forgiven. Is it salvagable? Am I correct to assume she likes me, but wishes she didn't? Is she just saving face? What, if anything, can I do?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by jmeredi
she sounds immmature
Yeah, her friend was the one that told everyone but that still leaves the question of what was the purpose of telling her friends anyway? I mean really, what business was it of hers?
 

nishbuk

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You already explained the situation. She's either going to understand or she's not. Just keep doing what your doing, and eventually you'll see the signs if it's good go, or if it's not. If it's good, then take action.
 

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If you lot are all the cool suave DJs that you make yourselves out to be, why are you so upset about one girl?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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