Confessions : as life gets better dating got worse..

[Gamisch]

3 dates is nothing in the scheme of things. It might be more meaningful if @Gamisch rarely goes on dates. He might have only arranged 3 dates in a 6 month period. I don't think that's applicable here. It would be helpful to know the time frame of these 3 dates. 1 month? 2 months? 6 months?



I agree.



Looks, money, status, and personality are the aspects in attraction, seduction, and retention.

If a man has a minimal job (lacking money), it's not a big deal if he creates a persona where his SMV is not at tied to money.

There are dirtbags with McJobs and manual labor jobs who get laid more than a lot of beta male office workers with much higher salaries.

These dirtbags don't tie their SMV to money. The kinds of women they bang are different but they get pussie.

I do see how a minimal job with partying and doing drugs would help in getting laid.



Most men have a low match rate on swipe apps and don't have that much of an opportunity for dates. Additionally, they are not approaching a sufficient number of strangers.

Men can get more than 3 dates in a year if they do A LOT of volume. That's something that is only possible in the biggest cities.

If a mid-tier man swipes thousands of times and/or spam approaches, he can get 3 dates in less than a year.

It is a challenge for a lot of mid-tier men to actually get 3 dates at this point.

These 3 dates were recently, between mid February and April.

Another factor: two of those 3 were women that approached/ opened at ME...one was from OLD

 

[The Duke]

I believe LMS only helps you with top tier women. I think it is completely irrelevant when you are going for normal women outside the 1%.

So what's necessary for the other 99% of women on the planet? Nothing? They don't care about LMS at all?

 

[SW15]

These 3 dates were recently, between mid February and April.

Short time frame and that's good. You are attracting women.

Another factor: two of those 3 were women that approached/ opened at ME...one was from OLD

Arranging 2 of the 3 dates with stranger approaches is better. Arranging 2 dates from stranger approaches in 6-8 weeks isn't too bad.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Of LMS isn't the most important aspect then what is??? How do we actually "verbalise " this?

1). Looks- You do not need to be a Chad, but be presentable, healthy, and have something that shines about you.

2). Social Confidence & Emotional IQ- Simply being able to talk/be open with women without being gridlocked by insecurities, shyness, Red Pill/PUA brainwashed paranoia, mental disorders, political ideology, and rage.

3). Logistics- Have access to places with healthy single women that are open to meeting & dating guys outside their bubbles

Now let's combine all this: Jerry loves Game of Thrones and goes to a yuppyish bar down the street with his friends to hang out. While ordering a drink he spots a nice lady and she sees that he is wearing a Game of Thrones shirt and brings it up. They initially connect over Game of Thrones, but they dive deeper into other topics like traveling, cooking, and god knows what. In addition, the girl finds Jerry attractive because he is in shape and has long well-maintained hair. Furthermore, Jerry did not ruin the conversation by being weird, bringing up Donald Trump, Andrew Tatism, or bore her to death with his work/401k nonsense. Jerry thinks the conversation went well since she is still talking to him, so he asks her to go to another bar and continue the night. She gladly says yes and *****.

None of this required any extreme degree of LMS. Would LMS help in this situation? SURE, but is it completely necessary...NO.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Furthermore, Jerry did not ruin the conversation by bringing up Donald Trump, Andrew Tatism, or bore her to death with his work/401k nonsense..

if the woman is political (especially liberal) or knows who Adrew Tate is. Red flag.. Walk away. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

 

[CornbreadFed]

if the woman is political (especially liberal) or knows who Adrew Tate is. Red flag.. Walk away. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Most women are liberal by default especially in a city. Based off my experience, women are politically aggressive towards men they do not respect, so focus on attraction and frame.

 

[SW15]

Most women are liberal by default especially in a city.

I agree with this based on my dating experiences in my current city.

I do not mention politics in any way. Women don't tend to mention politics to me either.

I have had better interactions with moderate to conservative females than liberal females.

It is a fact that liberal females will outnumber conservative females. There are some centrist females or even center-left females that won't bring up politics.

Unmarrried, childless women under menopause age tend to have a left of center political ideology.