"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Complicated Situation

RandomGai

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I've known a girl for maybe 2-3 years just to say hello but have really gotten to know her over the past 6 months or so. I've always had a thing for her but never made a move because her boyfriend is a friend/acquaintance of mine. With that being said, there were clear signs of interest from her as I got to know her more and I reciprocated these signs as well (even though I never made a move).

About 1.5 months ago her and her boyfriend broke up after a very long relationship (2+ years). She hasn't told me about it and hasn't tried telling me how she feels and so on and so fourth. Her and I have been seeing quite a bit of each other over the past 1.5 months and I am positive there is something there. There is not a doubt in my mind about this.

I still have not said anything to her to give her time to get over her ex and so forth. This weekend her, myself, and a few friends are going away for the weekend and I feel it is the right time to say something. I've thought about what I want to say and have no problem saying it. However, there is one last detail complicating things.

She will be moving soon to start a new job. There is a chance I will get a job there as well, but there is also a chance I will be moving somewhere else. I'm wondering if it's even worth saying anything to her with the looming possibility of us being too far apart to pursue anything.

Basically, I am looking for suggestions as to whether or not I should say anything to her and, if you suggest I should, what do you think I should say.

Thanks.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Never, ever, do what you are thinking of doing.
Never tell a new woman "how you feel' because you believe that it may draw her closer. It won't.

Send her the message through your actions.
 

jophil28

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dupe.
 

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Interesting... I have gotten some advice that says differently so your response makes me a bit more confused (because of different opinions, not because you are right or wrong) on the situation.
 

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RandomGai said:
I've known a girl for maybe 2-3 years just to say hello but have really gotten to know her over the past 6 months or so. I've always had a thing for her but never made a move because her boyfriend is a friend/acquaintance of mine. With that being said, there were clear signs of interest from her as I got to know her more and I reciprocated these signs as well (even though I never made a move).

About 1.5 months ago her and her boyfriend broke up after a very long relationship (2+ years). She hasn't told me about it and hasn't tried telling me how she feels and so on and so fourth. Her and I have been seeing quite a bit of each other over the past 1.5 months and I am positive there is something there. There is not a doubt in my mind about this.

I still have not said anything to her to give her time to get over her ex and so forth. This weekend her, myself, and a few friends are going away for the weekend and I feel it is the right time to say something. I've thought about what I want to say and have no problem saying it. However, there is one last detail complicating things.

She will be moving soon to start a new job. There is a chance I will get a job there as well, but there is also a chance I will be moving somewhere else. I'm wondering if it's even worth saying anything to her with the looming possibility of us being too far apart to pursue anything.

Basically, I am looking for suggestions as to whether or not I should say anything to her and, if you suggest I should, what do you think I should say.

Thanks.
Why SAY when you can DO? Why haven't you kissed her? It there is no doubt, you should at the point where there is physical contact between you two.

Never have a "heart to heart" with a broad you haven't, at minimum, slept with.

Would you rather start something, then figure it out, or never have started something at all. Are you afraid that deep deep, you might be wrong, and she just has LJBF you, all along, so you rather live with the satisfaction that you know she likes you?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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you must be a really good friend

/sarcasm.

that is pretty messed up if you guys are at all close.

that being said...

telling her your feelings will make you crash and burn.

just be cool and see if she gives signs she wants to hook up.

there is no point in exhausting this much energy and thought if you all are moving away anyways. if you happen to be in the same town, then you can pursue her.
 

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RandomGai said:
Interesting... I have gotten some advice that says differently so your response makes me a bit more confused (because of different opinions, not because you are right or wrong) on the situation.
Who gave you what advice ?
 

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Alright dude... listen up, I'm going to give it to you straight.

Take. These. Guys. Advice. Do not tell her, do something to show it if you want her.

I was in the exact same situation as you last school year. In fact, it's what drove me to this forum. THANK GOD I didn't say anything to her. I was expecting things to build slowly, but as soon as she realized I wasn't going to make a move her interest fizzled big time for awhile. And my girl was showing WAY more interest than yours is, including asking me to move in with her, trying to very subtly talk me into sleeping with her, etc.

Through a very long rebuilding process she's pretty interested in me again, but I won't know if it's in a LJBF way or a BF way until I see her again. Her IL was so high that it mostly survived the incredible damage my AFC behavior was doing to it. Several long months of total separation has helped too. But nothing is ever the same as the first opportunity missed. Remember that.

In the meantime, I've used this forum to think more carefully about how I come across to girls. Unrelated to her I've also spent the summer on a pretty major self-improvement reginem including everything from Argentine Tango to Eating/breathing/sleeping Mark Rippetoe's barbell program.

When I see her again, I'm going to do things right. If it works out, great. If not, I'll be in that much better position to find other fish.

Save yourself the headache, do it right the first time if you really are interested in her.
 
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