"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Competition w/ another Dude

CORVETTE06

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Ok guys, i read both Neil Strauss' book and Mysterys... so i know all the basics of being a pua.

Using my skills in the field I picked up this hot girl about 4 months ago.

I seen her since here and there when I went out but never made a real move until recently. I asked her to be my date to a fraternity formal..and she came. We had a great time together, and she talked about how she wants to hang out in the future.

Well now, three days later, theres this popular bartender kid who is writing all over her facebook wall, and shes writing back. They talk about how they miss each other and **** like that.

How am I going to compete against this kid?

Should I

- Go on as if he does not exist and ask her to get lunch with me during the week.

- Take a step back, and see her when I go to the bar on the weekend. (The other dude will be there since he works there)

or

- Take a step back, and see her when I go to the bar on the weekend, and make her jealous by hanging around other women.

Please help me out - thanks!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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KontrollerX

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Keep making moves on her.

Ignore that other idiot and go for what you want with her be it a fvck or her to be your girlfriend or whatever.

If she denies you cooly blow it off and get with other chicks.

She may come around eventually and she may not but the point is you will of went for what you wanted and not have to live with a regret of what could of been.

The bartender guy is closing in currently.

Are you prepared to sweep in right now when you have the chance, make her have more fun and feel better to be around you and prove that you are the better guy than him?

If so do so.
 

CORVETTE06

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Ok this dude is really pissing me off. he constantly writes on her wall and leaves her messages nonstop. thats like creepy.

she is hanging out with him though, and she seems to enjoy it.

i dont think i can just pretend he doesnt exist anymore... i was going to call her today to get something to eat... guess not
 

TheBaconator

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CORVETTE06 said:
Ok this dude is really pissing me off. he constantly writes on her wall and leaves her messages nonstop. thats like creepy.

she is hanging out with him though, and she seems to enjoy it.

i dont think i can just pretend he doesnt exist anymore... i was going to call her today to get something to eat... guess not

The problem is you are letting this guy get to you wayy to much, and putting too much focus on this girl. You aren't exclusive with her, so she's spinning plates as you should be doing.

You say him leaving her messages is creepy, while i'd say monitoring these messages and getting angry about them is just as much, if not more creepy.

What are you looking for with her, ONS, FB, or LTR? If it's anything other then a LTR then you have no reason to sweat it, and if it's a LTR you will have to step up your game with her and see if she actually wants one right now. From what you've written it doesn't sound like she wants anything serious.
 

KontrollerX

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Dude...

The only thing you have to be concerned about is if she rejects your advances on her.

So move forward already.

Try to get a date with her, invite her to your place etc.

Something.

And if she rejects you than obviously she is serious with this guy and you'll just have to next her but you'll never know what the score is for real if you just write her off as this guy's property outright.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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