"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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hey

not sure if this has been brought up before on here but what does one do if you are after a particular girl and you do all the right steps necessary (generating interest easing off etc) but did not number close the first time you see her, and then the next time you do she's with a suspicious male friend who you can tell is trying to do exactly what you are doing?

how does one deal with a situation like this. Most of the information I've read talks about how 'other guys' will do one thing and you should do something else to differentiate yourself and come across as an alpha male..

but what happens if this other guy(s) who is pretty much ****blocking you is also an alpha male displaying the regular traits and goes through the same motions of approaching etc?

basically you're both competing for this one girl now, which for one puts her on a pedastel automatically, so how do you get the girl??

if you next her and move on, technically you somewhat conceded and gave up which seems somewhat i don't know un-alpha male like if that makes sense..
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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yeah don't compete for her or next her.

Most girls don't know what's going on with the whole alpha thing even though all guys will want to try to "out-alpha" each other when girls are around even if they have no idea about this site or sites like it. It's a built in thing.

So really, just by knowing that you can really just laugh at the whole thing and forget about the guys and just go for her.
 

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drift king said:
hey

not sure if this has been brought up before on here but what does one do if you are after a particular girl and you do all the right steps necessary (generating interest easing off etc) but did not number close the first time you see her, and then the next time you do she's with a suspicious male friend who you can tell is trying to do exactly what you are doing?

how does one deal with a situation like this. Most of the information I've read talks about how 'other guys' will do one thing and you should do something else to differentiate yourself and come across as an alpha male..

but what happens if this other guy(s) who is pretty much ****blocking you is also an alpha male displaying the regular traits and goes through the same motions of approaching etc?

basically you're both competing for this one girl now, which for one puts her on a pedastel automatically, so how do you get the girl??

if you next her and move on, technically you somewhat conceded and gave up which seems somewhat i don't know un-alpha male like if that makes sense..
If you have done all the right things, you've got nothing to worry about. If a girl is interested in 'you', all the alpha and beta males in a room can approach her and it won't matter, she'll have her mind set on you.

If I see a guy 'trying' to ****block me, I'll sit back with a smile on my face and wink at her from a distance. I might also walk by and say something like 'i think he likes you', and keep going. If you really want to mess with her head (and his), wave her over, or nod with your head. When she walks over to you and says 'yes'? Say, 'nothing, i just wanted to see if you would come over, you can go back to your boyfriend now' and give her a wink. She'll probaby smack your shoulder or something, but that's o.k., that just means she liked it. I've done this myself, it works every time.

If you have done all the right things, everything will fall into place and she'll come to you, or at least try to get your attention. Just keep in mind that she has to work for you attention, don't go giving it to her automatically just because she has a pretty face. Deep down inside she 'wants' to work for it.

Attention is like a drug to a girl, use it to your advantage.
 

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Ignore him and continue to game her... Everyone fears putting a byatch on a pedestal... Welcome to life, where you compete with other men for women, money, and respect...

You win the game when you get what you desire...
 

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ok so say i go to compete for her with another dude.. do the same rules apply as to what you should do? or do they have to be used more intensely bearing in mind theres another alpha male present trying to mess up your action?

for instance if this dude is trying to ****block you and seems to be making relatively good progress with your HB, if you walk away will it necessary draw her to you?

i would have thought she might think 'ok well he's not interested cos he's not even willing to fight for me so i'll go with this guy who is'

so by walking away you've somewhat lost if that makes sense..
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Just thought this was worth mentioning a second time...

Originally posted by Espi
One way to truly win a girl over is to risk losing her.
 

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is there a particular way you should do it though?

i mean for instance if you tell her 'i'll leave you two alone' when shes with another guy.. does that not come across as you're jealous?

basically what is the tone of how you say it that makes it look like.. 'hey i dont care im happy with or without you'
 

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with this mystery method, after you say it and leave, and later she comes over to find you to apologise or whatnot..

what should you do after that?

should you continue to ignore her making yourself closed off?
 

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ahh i see

so just carry on with the same flow of convo before she started talking to the other guy?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ok heres another but similar scenario.. what if she's talking to another guy and constantly peeking over at you to make you jealous to see how you react?

what would you suggest be the best way to act in this kind of scenario?

not sure if this has happened to anyone.. but say you arrange to meet up with a girl on the assumption its you and her, and to your surprise she brings a 'friend' someone who is male. in my experience this really rattles you as you don't expect it, but what would be the best to handle a situation like this?
 

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drift king said:
ok heres another but similar scenario.. what if she's talking to another guy and constantly peeking over at you to make you jealous to see how you react?

what would you suggest be the best way to act in this kind of scenario?

not sure if this has happened to anyone.. but say you arrange to meet up with a girl on the assumption its you and her, and to your surprise she brings a 'friend' someone who is male. in my experience this really rattles you as you don't expect it, but what would be the best to handle a situation like this?
Then she is probably trying to play you.

This happened to me a while ago at a party. Girl was totally digging me, but she was avoiding me and trying to play hard to get. At one point she was sitting on my roommate's lap, but sneaking glances at me. I ignored it and talked with other people, and then as I was heading to my room for the night, she intercepted and then joined me.

If she's looking at you she's interested. Let her come to you.
 

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drift king said:
ok heres another but similar scenario.. what if she's talking to another guy and constantly peeking over at you to make you jealous to see how you react?

what would you suggest be the best way to act in this kind of scenario??

You either jokingly blow kisses at her or you ignore her and find someone else to have a fun conversation with. Don't let her see that it bothers you because it shouldn't. The problem is that you focus too much ON ONE FREAKING GIRL!! if you had 2-3 other potential dates in the same week you would actually not really care about this one.

drift king said:
not sure if this has happened to anyone.. but say you arrange to meet up with a girl on the assumption its you and her, and to your surprise she brings a 'friend' someone who is male. in my experience this really rattles you as you don't expect it, but what would be the best to handle a situation like this?
Depends on the situation. If you arranged to just hang out then she can bring anyone she pleases. Next time make your intention clear.

If you made your intention clear and she brings a guy with her, don't sweat it and the most important thing DON'T LET IT RATTLE YOU, but continue to play this game, show her that you are a good sport. Have a good conversation with both of them and find out about the dude and show that you don't really care even if you found out they are both fvcking. Once you get tired of this just excuse yourself and leave. You might leave a good impression on her that you were cool as a cat and that she might want to see you again (but let her know that it will be just you and her this time around). Or you can just get rid of her and go find a more mature girl who knows not to bring another guy to a date.
 

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I'm jsut gonna write this once and i wouldn't be adding any replies.

From a 3rd year university student studying evolution and science in general, 90% of the population are filled with beta males. And when it comes to being an alpha male, you either are born one, or you are not. Plain and simple!

But jsut cause you are a beta doesn't mean all hope is lost, it just means you gotta try harder.

The ultimate weapon of the beta males i have found have been "wit/humour" or "poetry/art/music"."
 

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i never do the alpha thing. i just be myself and usually that's what a girl likes to see. that's being alpha enough. i remember when i DID used to try compete... i find i get more attention when i'm just being myself and not competing or trying to look like the strongest male in the group. be yourself and if a girl likes you then kick ass :)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Espi said:
No...I would act like it never happened...if she comes back, she's interested...acknowledging her return in a positive or negative way reveals you're "happy" she came back, and that, IMO, is not a good thing.

So, just carry on like it's nothing.

What if she apologises when she returns?

do you just say 'yeah fine' without looking either happy nor upset or forgiving and just carry on from where you left off prior?
 

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Just throwing this out there, if you leave and she's talking/flirting/whatevering with another guy, isn't it an option to go flirt with other girls in attempt to make HER jealous?
 
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