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Company Policy: Can't give number out?

PDubb75

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Ok guys, I'll make this story fairly short.

I was at an event last night, more of a private party type thing with my company. The bartender on our floor was extremely cute, and I immediately began talking with her. I knew I was going to be there for 4 hours, so I held off on asking for her number too soon. Things were going great, I had her laughing, told some good stories, she was volunteering personal information I didn't ask for, she was basically fondling the alcohol bottles when we were talking, and would somewhat blush when I just looked at her and smiled.

A couple times when I walked away, she apparently brought me up to my coworkers that went to get drinks and said how funny I was. I was a little drunk, so I was glad I had some reassurance when I had about 5 of my coworkers come up to me at different times because they noticed how much this girl was flirting with me.

So, a little while later I told her to give me her number and she says "I'm really sorry. I'm not allowed to give out my number. It's a company policy." I just gave her this look and kinda chuckled and said "I'm gonna slide my phone over to you, just type it in under the bar. No one will know." She just smiled and said "We'll see". A little while later I saw her downstairs from a distance and I put my hands up as if saying "well?" and she gives me a sad face and mouths "I'm sorry".

Being completely honest, do you think she actually had no interest? Was she using that line, even if it may be "true", as her "way out"?

Any tips on getting around that?
 

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Tiguere

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move on. stop hitting on bartenders, bar maids, waitresses. its such a waste of time. instead use them as social status.
 

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Total B.S.

If a chick wants you she will do whatever it takes to be with you

If a chick thinks youre funny, awesome, attracted to you she would do anything to get your number company poilcy or not.

It was an excuse she didnt want to give it to you

you might of been funny but she wasnt interested because you saw she rejected you.

After she said "We'll see" you shouldn't have asked her again to get rejected. you set yourself up for that. she would of given it to you when you handed her your phone.

Total B.S. excuse. no girl ever told me that. ever. bartender or not.
 

f283000

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Tiguere said:
move on. stop hitting on bartenders, bar maids, waitresses. its such a waste of time. instead use them as social status.
Short but sweet advice.

Do you really need to make a thread on this? These women get paid to act friendly with customers. That's what their job is. What is there to analyze in a situation like this except for she did what women in her line of work do all the time which is reject guys such as yourself that can't read their friendlyness for what it is..part of the job!

Tiguere gave great advice though. Use them as social status. Use them to practice your speaking with women.
 

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Thanks for the advice guys. I am moving on, I was just looking for some other opinions.

I found this one a little odd because of the interest she showed, above and beyond what was necessary. I mean, I hit on a lot of waitresses, bartender's etc. They are always friendly in a playful way, which is obviously part of the job. In this case it was more of a "nervous attraction" type that I'll see more in shy girls during day game cold approaches.

It was also an open bar that was paid entirely in advance by my company. So, in my mind, that tossed out the normal "if I'm really friendly he will buy more food/drinks" routine you see in a regular bar or restaurant.

I'm not trying to make excuses. You guys are right in pretty much everything you said. And even if you aren't right, either way it's time to move on. This was more in response to the question "do you really need to make a thread on this?" My answer is, yes I did. I'm not one of the guys on here that makes a thread about every little thing. In fact, I hardly ever start my own, as I do my best learning from going out and gaining experience. But I'm trying to learn here, and sometimes I would like the advice of others. Which, if I'm not mistaken, is the point of this forum.
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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BlackMack177

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I would've just slipped her my number and then went on about my business. you don't always HAVE to get their number. I find it better to give them mine and if they are interested then they will contact you. If they aren't then they won't

that shy chick 'don't wanna make the first move' BS doesn't even apply in todays world. It is not that much of a comfort breaker for her to shoot you a quick text message. Therefore they will contact if they like you
 
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