Throw_away787
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I realize we are all looking for something different when we enter a LTR-but I'm curious, what are some of the more common red flags that suggest a woman would be bad for a LTR?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Interesting last point. Can you elaborate further? If a woman is hardened or bitter, should I hold that against her? Maybe she did get screwed in the past (i.e. cheated on, pumped and dumped).A big one is her overall attitude towards men and relationships. If she seems hardened or bitter towards men and dating that probably means she's had a guy she's really loved dump her (alpha widowed) or shes been with a-lot of guys and is disillusioned.
just my 2 cents bro, would you save a wounded lion? lolInteresting last point. Can you elaborate further? If a woman is hardened or bitter, should I hold that against her? Maybe she did get screwed in the past (i.e. cheated on, pumped and dumped).
It's got more to do with her lacking the ability to really pair bond with you and enter into something meaningful and lasting. It's nice to think that you can help her "learn to love again", but if she's overly bitter and pessimistic about men and relationships it could mean that some guy or multiple guys have already gotten her emotional best in the past and there's always going to be that separating the two of you and anything you build together moving forward, i.e. women like this have an easier time dropping you if you're not on top of your game because they aren't holding onto any fantasy ideas about true love and romance conquer all.Interesting last point. Can you elaborate further? If a woman is hardened or bitter, should I hold that against her? Maybe she did get screwed in the past (i.e. cheated on, pumped and dumped).
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Second this!It's got more to do with her lacking the ability to really pair bond with you and enter into something meaningful and lasting. It's nice to think that you can help her "learn to love again", but if she's overly bitter and pessimistic about men and relationships it could mean that some guy or multiple guys have already gotten her emotional best in the past and there's always going to be that separating the two of you and anything you build together moving forward, i.e. women like this have an easier time dropping you if you're not on top of your game because they aren't holding onto any fantasy ideas about true love and romance conquer all.
Just an FYI I could potentially be wrong about that, but from my personal experience it's definitely a red flag I'm never going to ignore again for a potential LTR.
Fast in what way? She starts treating you like a boyfriend right away? Or do you mean physically?Things move extremely fast
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I agree with all the other ones except this one. I think this is a clear sign that she is interested in you. If you are leading correctly they will always try to be a little bit like you. The girl will make the same jokes as you, the girl will agree with your value system, and even adopt some of the values that you espouse. I think this is a sign of good leadership on the mans part.Mirroring your behavior and values
Okay I completely understand what you are saying. So there is really nuance to it all. Mirroring can be a good sign and a bad sign, It simply depends on the extent to which she mirrors. That sounds about right. Thanks for the clarification brother.For one thing it's a symptom of cluster B disorder. There's a difference between honestly trying to adapt to your partner to increase compatibility because you see value in them, and hiding your true self to the extent you even have a personality in order to trick your partner into accepting a situation he wouldn't otherwise accept.
For example your girlfriend sitting down and watching Game of Thrones with you even though she doesn't really like it is a sign that she wants to invest in a relationship. Your girlfriend telling you that she's a huge Game of Throne fan and she loves Game of Thrones and read all the books even though it's a complete lie is mirroring and red flag.
The most bone-chilling example I can think of from my past is a girl railing against cheating and how she would never do it and how she would never put up with it ever again and then a year later telling me that cheating isn't worth breaking up over... this is flat-out fraudulent
Just two add, baby daddy(s)Daddy issues
Mommy issues
Fighting at home
Mostly guy friends
Exes around
Alcoholic or drug abusing parents
Egotistical
Argumentative
Knows psychology
Cares too much about appearance/superficial values
Lazy
Cheated in the past for any reason, even if it sounds justified
High partner count even if serial monogamist
30+ and never married
Gut feeling that something isn't right
Mirroring your behavior and values
Things move extremely fast
Cannot articulate morality beyond negative statements and oversimplifications/believes in subjective morality
Incorporate by reference everything btownbuck said other than his third point...sometimes the women have their family somewhat in this dark.
https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/rules-to-live-by.235277/I realize we are all looking for something different when we enter a LTR-but I'm curious, what are some of the more common red flags that suggest a woman would be bad for a LTR?
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Hahahaha, lmfao. For some reason I just started chuckling, then bursting out laughing reading this.It's got more to do with her lacking the ability to really pair bond with you and enter into something meaningful and lasting. It's nice to think that you can help her "learn to love again",
Older post, but this man is totally correct here and other guys should definitely consider this, especially when virtually every young woman uses social media today.Red flag #1:
She is always seeking attention. Constant selfies (FB, snaps, instagram, etc).
Major red flag. Nothing you do except becoming the prize through scarcity will change that, and even that it a temporary solution.
With women like this, you can be scarce, a challenge, but if you get into a relationship with this type women, eventually she will think she "has you" and will entertain attention from other men. Just a fact.