Throw_away787
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I realize we are all looking for something different when we enter a LTR-but I'm curious, what are some of the more common red flags that suggest a woman would be bad for a LTR?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Interesting last point. Can you elaborate further? If a woman is hardened or bitter, should I hold that against her? Maybe she did get screwed in the past (i.e. cheated on, pumped and dumped).A big one is her overall attitude towards men and relationships. If she seems hardened or bitter towards men and dating that probably means she's had a guy she's really loved dump her (alpha widowed) or shes been with a-lot of guys and is disillusioned.
just my 2 cents bro, would you save a wounded lion? lolInteresting last point. Can you elaborate further? If a woman is hardened or bitter, should I hold that against her? Maybe she did get screwed in the past (i.e. cheated on, pumped and dumped).
It's got more to do with her lacking the ability to really pair bond with you and enter into something meaningful and lasting. It's nice to think that you can help her "learn to love again", but if she's overly bitter and pessimistic about men and relationships it could mean that some guy or multiple guys have already gotten her emotional best in the past and there's always going to be that separating the two of you and anything you build together moving forward, i.e. women like this have an easier time dropping you if you're not on top of your game because they aren't holding onto any fantasy ideas about true love and romance conquer all.Interesting last point. Can you elaborate further? If a woman is hardened or bitter, should I hold that against her? Maybe she did get screwed in the past (i.e. cheated on, pumped and dumped).
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Second this!It's got more to do with her lacking the ability to really pair bond with you and enter into something meaningful and lasting. It's nice to think that you can help her "learn to love again", but if she's overly bitter and pessimistic about men and relationships it could mean that some guy or multiple guys have already gotten her emotional best in the past and there's always going to be that separating the two of you and anything you build together moving forward, i.e. women like this have an easier time dropping you if you're not on top of your game because they aren't holding onto any fantasy ideas about true love and romance conquer all.
Just an FYI I could potentially be wrong about that, but from my personal experience it's definitely a red flag I'm never going to ignore again for a potential LTR.
Fast in what way? She starts treating you like a boyfriend right away? Or do you mean physically?Things move extremely fast
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I agree with all the other ones except this one. I think this is a clear sign that she is interested in you. If you are leading correctly they will always try to be a little bit like you. The girl will make the same jokes as you, the girl will agree with your value system, and even adopt some of the values that you espouse. I think this is a sign of good leadership on the mans part.Mirroring your behavior and values
Okay I completely understand what you are saying. So there is really nuance to it all. Mirroring can be a good sign and a bad sign, It simply depends on the extent to which she mirrors. That sounds about right. Thanks for the clarification brother.For one thing it's a symptom of cluster B disorder. There's a difference between honestly trying to adapt to your partner to increase compatibility because you see value in them, and hiding your true self to the extent you even have a personality in order to trick your partner into accepting a situation he wouldn't otherwise accept.
For example your girlfriend sitting down and watching Game of Thrones with you even though she doesn't really like it is a sign that she wants to invest in a relationship. Your girlfriend telling you that she's a huge Game of Throne fan and she loves Game of Thrones and read all the books even though it's a complete lie is mirroring and red flag.
The most bone-chilling example I can think of from my past is a girl railing against cheating and how she would never do it and how she would never put up with it ever again and then a year later telling me that cheating isn't worth breaking up over... this is flat-out fraudulent
Just two add, baby daddy(s)Daddy issues
Mommy issues
Fighting at home
Mostly guy friends
Exes around
Alcoholic or drug abusing parents
Egotistical
Argumentative
Knows psychology
Cares too much about appearance/superficial values
Lazy
Cheated in the past for any reason, even if it sounds justified
High partner count even if serial monogamist
30+ and never married
Gut feeling that something isn't right
Mirroring your behavior and values
Things move extremely fast
Cannot articulate morality beyond negative statements and oversimplifications/believes in subjective morality
Incorporate by reference everything btownbuck said other than his third point...sometimes the women have their family somewhat in this dark.
https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/rules-to-live-by.235277/I realize we are all looking for something different when we enter a LTR-but I'm curious, what are some of the more common red flags that suggest a woman would be bad for a LTR?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Hahahaha, lmfao. For some reason I just started chuckling, then bursting out laughing reading this.It's got more to do with her lacking the ability to really pair bond with you and enter into something meaningful and lasting. It's nice to think that you can help her "learn to love again",
Older post, but this man is totally correct here and other guys should definitely consider this, especially when virtually every young woman uses social media today.Red flag #1:
She is always seeking attention. Constant selfies (FB, snaps, instagram, etc).
Major red flag. Nothing you do except becoming the prize through scarcity will change that, and even that it a temporary solution.
With women like this, you can be scarce, a challenge, but if you get into a relationship with this type women, eventually she will think she "has you" and will entertain attention from other men. Just a fact.