"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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lxr

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weird thread title aside, I was wondering if you guys could help me reflect on my most recent endeavor.

At my school we have this club event where we all eat at this restaurant as a fundraiser. Last month I went (I have to 'cause i'm president) and there we two guy friends and 7 girls, two of which were targets of mine. It went pretty well and I was laughing everyone up.

Tonight it was a similar dinner night and I suspected that my targets might show up again, so I made sure to dress sharply and used some woody-oriental cologne (Burberry London) to fit the weather. Sure enough, they were there. Different from last time, though, was that there were only 4 of us. 2 targets, 1 other girl.

One part that was a success was my humor and composure, because I was able to make them all laugh a lot. Also, I teased them a bunch and was able to act confidently throughout. I really felt that I was being "alpha-male" and they were having a good time.

At first I thought that I should try to get lots of contact in because there were so few of us, but It was hard because they were all sitting across from me in a booth. I did get the chance to rub one girl's hands; she reached over to get something and I said, "whoa, your fingernails are reaaally green, haha." thats about it.

I know that they're into me and I'm probably good enough to ask 'em out if I see them around later (alone, hopefully), but I would like some ideas on how to improve, specifically on improving the sexuality in this peculiar situation.

Thanks.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ARrocket

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Don't over-analyze. You're doing fine. You're not supposed to be getting overly sexual in a group setting, what do you want, an orgy including those other dudes? :rolleyes:

Your main focus should be continuing the seduction process. That is, you need to ISOLATE before you can ESCALATE. So, isolate. Get a number. Get a date. Get some pvssy. In that order.
 

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Yup. It's pretty much answered. It seems that you almost figured out the answer yourself just by posting that.
Remember that this should all feel natural. If "being confident" and "being alpha" feels like some mode you go into; then you're doing it wrong. That would be boosting your ego, which gets you nowhere in the end.
Kino is pretty much the difference between the friendzone and where you want to be.
 

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Cool cool. I wouldn't say confidence is a mode i go into, i just said it because of how proud I am about it. Also, I was considering the same lines about how much kino because it's a group setting.
Thanks for the direction arocket, isolate is my plan.
P. S.
It's a little frustrating to keep hearing that I'm over analyzing because I always try to improve myself even a little bit :) don't worry, I never lose sleep about this kind of stuff.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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