Comment to friend marks me as a women hater

[Canadian Catnip]

I believe I read it here that women are much more sexual than men. Women want sex and love it, probably more than men. They can have multiply orgasms for crying out loud.

Anyway I was telling this to a friend of mine and he turns to me and says. "Why do you hate women?"

I looked at him with astonishment and asked him how he came to the conclusion that I hated women. "Well" He says "You just basically called all women S!uts."

"Don't you think women want sex?" I asked him.

His answer "No, women don't ever think about sex."

I used to be like my friend. I believed that women were pure and sweet and all that. Now I believe that women love sex just as much or more than men do, But if you start spreading ideas like these around you get shot down by people who are still living inside the matrix.

So here is my question. Are all of these posts here we all read actually giving us the true reality about women or is my friend right and everything we read here is just made up by a lot of horny guys that want to believe certain things that are not true about women?

 

[reset]

So here is my question. Are all of these posts here we all read actually giving us the true reality about women or is my friend right and everything we read here is just made up by a lot of horny guys that want to believe certain things that are not true about women?

That question is more about you, and your own belief that you're on the right track. Do you believe what you say?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Why, why, why do guys persist in wanting to tell their AFC friends about concepts learned from sites like this? How many of them will actually 'get it?'

To answer your question, there is no reality only perception. People believe what they understand. That's how people are able to make it through their lives. Not everyone is meant to believe nor understand the things that they hear.

 

[Canadian Catnip]

That question is more about you, and your own belief that you're on the right track. Do you believe what you say?

All women want to have sex... Just not with me it seems.

 

[Obsidian]

haha what a loser. He's not only an AFC but he's deep in the hor matrix as well. Sure, women are pure and asexual... You ought to stop hanging around a little b1tch like that friend of yours.

You have to remember that women lose market value as their age and # of sexual partners increases. (Men, in contrast, can easily maintain or improve their attractiveness by gaming more women as they age.) Therefore, women will try to pretend they are pure, whereas guys will boast that they've banged plenty of hot girlz -- even if they haven't.

The reason women lose marketability with an increasing # of sexual partners is because
1. It is not the Natural Order of Things for women to be promiscuous. There is a reason that being called a "slvt" is insulting to a girl. A promiscuous woman has historically been deemed unworthy of marriage and legitimate childbearing -- because she obviously can't stay very loyal to one person.
2. People like me will rant about them and call them hors.
3. They're more likely to get the baggage of becoming pregnant and having a b@stard child (more so in the past than today)

 

[backbreaker]

men can also have mutli orgasms, you just gotta work at it.

His answer "No, women don't ever think about sex."

your friend is out of touch with reality as he can possibly be

the fact that every woman who is under the age of 30 and single are at night clubs every weekend should answer that.

women are some of the freakiest, nastist creatures ever created... in a good way

seriously. if you knew half the **** that went on in that innocent schoolgirls mind, youd think she was the devil's child.

Over the past 3 years, I've had

1) a woman, wiht her husband there mind you, drag me into the bathroom and give me a hummer.. and she swallowed.. then kissed her husband

2) I've had girls come to me REQuESTING I setup a gangbang for her to get "turned out" because "it was a fantasy of hers"

3) I had a woman convey to me that she thought about fvcking her german Shepard.. I stopped seeing her pronto

4) I've fvcked sales women at stores at least 4-5 times.. bathrooms, cars, wherever. it's just so random and pointless it's not worth bringing up.

5) I've had a waitress want to talk to me so bad, she asked for my number while I WAS ON A DATE.. and she was cute.. about a 7

I can go on and on

see, you have two worlds. It's like for instance.. say you odn't do drugs, and you never did. But then when you do try drugs, say coke... you start to notice **** you didn't notice before.. not tripping... but people who you didn't know did coke.. you can "tell".

It's the same with SEX. Men who don't get it, don't see it happen. they dont' have access to "the club". They wonder where does all this sex get go?

they talk about it.. they just don't talk to YOU about it.

If you take care of yourself, dress nice and aren't a supplicating *****, you will get all the ass you can handle.

 

[reset]

Why, why, why do guys persist in wanting to tell their AFC friends about concepts learned from sites like this? How many of them will actually 'get it?'

You're right. Sort of puts things in perspective for me... like why am I hanging out with guys who are afraid of girls.

 

[backbreaker]

hell, how many of the guys here actually "get it".

 

[Canadian Catnip]

there is no reality only perception.

You just blew my mind.

 

[backbreaker]

it's "there is no reality, just the perception of reality"

 

[Obsidian]

just anonymously email your friend a link to this website, and pray fervently that he repents of his chumpish ways

 

[reset]

All women want to have sex... Just not with me it seems.

LAME.

I'm going to make a point here but let me preface it by saying if you're going to talk about yourself like that, it will seem kind of pointless for me to talk to you.

What you said to your friend was nothing big, just an observation. And already you're second guessing yourself, and the stuff you've read here.

This is tough and I'm going through this right now, but clearly being with women is important to you... so you're going to have to decide how important your friendships are. Our good buddies that we have known forever, if they are afraid, and if your'e just learning to become UN-AFRAID (the process I've been going through) will not be there for you as you get better with women.

They will be afraid of losing the time they spend with you to girls, or they will be afraid that you may even push them to take some risks in life, and they are going to want to stay in that comfort zone, even if it means attempting to sabatoge your progress (probably not on purpose, but that's the way it is).

You need to be REALLY sharp, as you're getting out there into the bigger world, so as not to let the influence of your friends affect your progress. If they are afraid they WILL try to keep you at their level, and our friends have a big influence on us.

As you get more confidence, it won't be as big of an influence. But at that point you have to decide if your friends are enhancing your life or dragging you down with them.

I never thought going through this stuff would make me think these things, but unfortunately it's reality. Sometimes you outgrow the people you are close to.

 

[Canadian Catnip]

LAME.

I'm going to make a point here but let me preface it by saying if you're going to talk about yourself like that, it will seem kind of pointless for me to talk to you.

What you said to your friend was nothing big, just an observation. And already you're second guessing yourself, and the stuff you've read here.

This is tough and I'm going through this right now, but clearly being with women is important to you... so you're going to have to decide how important your friendships are. Our good buddies that we have known forever, if they are afraid, and if your'e just learning to become UN-AFRAID (the process I've been going through) will not be there for you as you get better with women.

They will be afraid of losing the time they spend with you to girls, or they will be afraid that you may even push them to take some risks in life, and they are going to want to stay in that comfort zone, even if it means attempting to sabatoge your progress (probably not on purpose, but that's the way it is).

You need to be REALLY sharp, as you're getting out there into the bigger world, so as not to let the influence of your friends affect your progress. If they are afraid they WILL try to keep you at their level, and our friends have a big influence on us.

As you get more confidence, it won't be as big of an influence. But at that point you have to decide if your friends are enhancing your life or dragging you down with them.

I never thought going through this stuff would make me think these things, but unfortunately it's reality. Sometimes you outgrow the people you are close to.

All the things I have learned about myself in the last year or so have been uncomfortable to deal with sometimes. I have lost more friends in the last year than ever before in my life. I am committed to changing myself.

You ever have that feeling that you have been kicked around and pushed down by people and life and you are given two choices. One) give up all your dreams and hopes and give in and submit to the world and die. Two) Say "Bring it on" and fight for what you want.

I was thinking over a coffee the other day. You know we don't get SH!T in life unless we fight for it. It seems it's natures way. The old expression EAT or be EATEN came to mind.

Well I said to myself that I will fight for as long as it takes. I will fight with my dying breath. I will fight anyone or anything that tries to stop me from growing.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

hell, how many of the guys here actually "get it".

Good question. At least the ones that don't know that they should pretend as if they do!

 

[reset]

Just keep at it Catnip. I'm in the same boat, the dudes I hang out with are afraid of chicks... for the longest time I would listen to them going on and on about how they are players, gonna give that chick the c0ck etc...

But they probably aren't. I know this because when we go out, it's usually me talking to the girls, not them (even though I listened for a few hours before hand about how they are going to lay some game on these chicks).

So, as I get more comfortable being around women, I'm realizing that the influence of these friends is not helping me. I don't want to stop hanging out with them, after all it's like my social network, but something has to be done...by me... so I know what you're going through.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...I was thinking over a coffee the other day. You know we don't get SH!T in life unless we fight for it. It seems it's natures way. The old expression EAT or be EATEN came to mind.

Well I said to myself that I will fight for as long as it takes. I will fight with my dying breath. I will fight anyone or anything that tries to stop me from growing.

You're on the right track goal wise but here's something to consider; what if you could achieve your goals without having to fight with such ferocity? To have a need to fight someone for something means that there will have to be someone there impeding your progression. The truth is that this isn't always true as long as you travel less congested roads.

For example, you see a group of women in a club getting tons of attention from AFCs. They're buying them drinks, tossing flattery at them left and right and infighting with one another in order to seem alpha. Now, to get the attention of these women would you do the same thing (take the same path) as all the other guys? Probably not if you don't want to come off like just one of the rest.

Stop believing that the only way to achieve is by taking things on head on. If there was a wall in front of you and you needed to get to the other side what would you do? Run head on into it? Climb over it? Walk around it? There are always options. Take a moment to notice them and choose the best one for the situation. You don't need to win the most battles to win the war.

 

[Max Power]

at that point you have to decide if your friends are enhancing your life or dragging you down with them.

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Oh, you got that right.

Since I discovered all this knowledge it has been a blessing and a curse.

I come to realize that of my friends who I go out and drink with only one is not a chronic AFC.

I feel my weekends are wasted if I spend any evening time out on the town with my friends. It's so bad, I go out alone.

Take last night.

I go out alone and head to the local strip club to get in gear before going to a club. On my way there I get a message from my AFC buddy asking me if I want to go the same strip club. I say sure I'll meet you there. Anyways buddy takes forever to get there and I want to get out. It's noticeable I'm not hanging out with him as much, so I don't want to piss him off and take off, so I wait for him because he is my friend.
Anyways he gets there, I have my second beer and tell him, let's go to a real club after this. He hmmms and hawws.

Before he gives me an answer a stripper rolls up and takes him to the champagne room in like 5 seconds. So I order a third beer and wait for him cause I can't take off on my friend.

Half an hour later he emerges and tells me the stripper is going back home with him.

Me: How much is it going to cost you?
Him: Nothing.
Me: Did she say you guys were ****ing?
Him: She just needs a place to stay. She's from outta town and doesn't like the stripper motel the club set her up in.

Dude thinks he's getting laid, Well, I still don't believe it, and I can't ask him how he built attraction cause he doesn't even know about the concept and tunes out whenever I discuss these issues or vehemently disagrees, like Catnip's buddy.

He's happy as hell, I want to tell him I think it's bull****, and I should, but I can't cause he will disagree and we'll get into an arguement or say I'm negative or something.

So I have to play along. And now, after I spent an hour and a half longer than I wanted in the strip club my friend isn't tagging along. He's gonna spend the rest of the night sitting at the table in the club waiting for this girl's shift to end.

I tell him to message me and keep me updated, knowing what the results will be.

This morning I get a message. The stripper returned to the table and flaked out.

Anyways. My whole point is now that I'm no longer supplicating for women, I find myself supplicating for my AFC friends. It's so noticeable and bothers me a lot. I want to help my friends but they won't -- no absoultely refuse -- to listen. They think everything is just fine in the matrix.

 

[Obsidian]

imo, you have to start treating your feminine male friends like women. That's what they respond to best. Boss 'em around and stuff, don't show too much interest in them, and don't put up with their bullsh1t. Kinda sad, but that's my realization.

 

[Max Power]

imo, you have to start treating your feminine male friends like women. That's what they respond to best. Boss 'em around and stuff, don't show too much interest in them, and don't put up with their bullsh1t. Kinda sad, but that's my realization.

Easier said then done. And I don't know if you can treat a straight male AFC like a female HB and get results.