"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Coming off too strong or toning it down?

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Situation: a year or so ago I went to spend a week at some friends place in another city, meet hb9, she showed interest, chased her but I have the feeling it might have come off as too strong and too fast. Anyways, never got anywhere, had to leave, tried to meet with her in a another city we both travel to frequently but she never returned the call (at the time I just nexted her and never thought about it again).

Now I´m probably travelling to this friends city again soon, I might bump into her again, and if the dynamic is still there I´ll likely try to see this trough again, what you guys suggest, keep doing what I was doing before or tone it down a bit? She is a introvert, btw.

I prefer to come off as too strong than as too weak, but this situation didn´t turned out so well, so I´m thinking I´ll play it softer this time... what do you guys think? I´ll probably be going to this place more often now. The fact that she never returned the call also makes me wanna not give her the time of the day.

This is not oneitis, just a 9 that seemed like a good prospect at the time but I never managed to see it trough and I want to chalk down either as a "learning experience" or a sucess, not a loose end (a very irrelevant one, but still one) - if I have the opportunity, that is.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Radharc said:
... meet hb9, she showed interest, chased her but I have the feeling it might have come off as too strong and too fast.
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If you are having those thoughts that you pushed too hard, too fast, you are probably correct.
It is impossible to know what she is thinking about you BUT, HB9's are subjected to a stampede of horny guys "pushing too fast" . By doing the same, you just joined the conga line.
 
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jophil28 said:
It is impossible to know what she is thinking about you BUT, HB9's are subjected to a stampede of horny guys "pushing too fast" . By doing the same, you just joined the conga line.
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Good point... now that I think about it it seems kinda obvious. Also it was a bit a situation where I felt I was racing against the clock.
 
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