“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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What's up sosuave. It's finally time to go to college...moving in early tommorrow morning, and class starts on Monday. I'm going to study my @$$ off, expand my horizons, and yes, meet a bunch of ladies.

I'm gonna have two types of entries here--FR-ish posts where I record and reflect upon events with girls, and "DJ Journal" entries--just random thoughts about girls, gaming, being a man, etc.

A few things I wanna get down here--
-Started reading this site about this time last year. Made progress--got my first two kisses, nothing else though
-I'm going to a pretty big school in the city
-I'm asian, lots of asians at my school, but I generally don't like asian girls
-I don't plan on drinking a lot--gonna stay busy with the important sh!t and I gotta save money
-Not gonna cold approach much. I don't have much experience doing it, so I don't want to be known as the guy who just tries to pick up girls all the time at school. If I'm outside school grounds around people I won't see again, I'll probably go for it more.

Bottom Line--Focus is on school. I'm gonna try to graduate in three years. With that being said, fun and women are things I DO want in my life, so I'm going to get them.

Feedback and advice always appreciated! Anyone who's kept a FR journal can probably relate when I say that it gets to be a hassle updating sometimes, and that extra encouragement just might make the difference :D

And we're off!
 

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Today, Friday

Classes haven't started yet, but there are a few random events that people are going to to mainly get accustomed to the city and meet some people. I went to an event for honors college today.

It's my first time at an event really, so I don't know anyone. I walk into the auditorium alone, ask some random guys where my group is supposed to be sitting, and start stepping over some random people to get to a seat.

As I stepped over some asian guy, he sticks out his hand to me and goes, "I'm AsianGuy." Cool. What's up AsianGuy. This girl sitting next to him, who's pretty cute for an Indian girl, maybe a 6 or 7, starts talking to me. I sit down next to her and she's all smiles. We find we have a few things in common and I tease her here and there and we high five for some asian joke. Smiles and laughs at everything, I'm just naturally conversing her and bantering by talking quite a bit, more than I usually do.

The lady at the front starts talking, and they start giving a presentation. For a while, we keep talking as the lady's giving the presentation. She re-initiates convo a bunch of times when it dies down. After a while, I actually wanted to hear what the lady was saying so I quieted down. She kept making comments to me here and there. Half the time I couldn't hear what the fwck she was saying so I started making generic facial expressions as responses.

After a bit I felt like I was being too positive. Letting her feel too comfortable. I commented on how nice a lady looked, and she asked me if I wanted her to hook me up. I said, "Nah I'll go talk to her myself."

After a while, we had to get up and leave. Overall, I feel like the whole interaction seemed like a friendly start to connecting with someone. She struck me at first as more of a smart, "well-mannered" girl who I usually like, but later seemed more of a ****y attention-hor type.

Our group started doing this scavenger hunt thing where we had to take a bunch of pictures together in random places, and I had no idea what was going on at first so I looked like a dumb@$$. The first picture we took, I naturally start putting my arm around IndianGirl because I always do it in pictures, and she snapped at me, "Get your hand off of me!" I retorted back, "Get outta here" or something.

Matter of fact, I think that was almost the last thing we said to each other. The group was together for another half an hour or hour, but we were busy with the scavenger hunt. Then I was kinda talking to the other people, and IndianGirl was talking to a senior guy who was one of the group leaders. All of a sudden she left the group saying she was gonna go to some meeting and gave all 3 of our group leaders (1 guy, 2 girls) a hug goodbye and a "nice to meet you" and didn't do anything more than just wave to me.

Well, I'll bet I'll probably see her around more because it seems the honors college here always does a bunch of random sh!t together. I'm not too interested in her, but yes she is good looking enough and she has a vagina and I have a penis. I won't friend her on Facebook just yet. If I see her again, I'll just talk to her and connect more. Nothing to lose--nothing wrong with starting to build a social circle and adding a girl to my "posse".

On the other hand, my student ambassador was pretty cute and seemed like someone I would like--chill yet fun, and caring. Didn't talk to her that much because a lot of 1 on 1 conversation didn't really seem appropriate in the group setting--so I just kinda chilled and talked to the group instead of her. At the end though, I went up to her, shook her hand saying it was nice meeting her, and thanked her for leading our group. She said to feel free to call her with any questions, and her friend nearby joked about saying all she does is answer questions or whatever.

That's about it for Day 1! I wanted to go to another New Student Event but I can't find info about it anywhere. I'm actually gonna go back home tonight (I don't live too far from the city) and grab some other sh!t that I forgot to bring.
 

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The biggest dogs, the true alpha dogs, don't need to bark because they know their bite is enough.

An example of that today--during the scavenger hunt, at the beginning I had no idea what was going on and the other group members were legitimately p!ssed at me because I was slowing them down or some sh!t. The group leader who was a guy even said to me, "You suck dude." Someone else also said something demeaning.

Now some of you may disagree with this, but I literally acted as if I didn't even hear those words. I didn't justify myself by explaining that I didn't know the scavenger hunt was going on.

Hours later when we were eating food and laughing about what we just did, one girl brought up how stupid I was being and I laughed like it was the funniest thing in the world. Then I laughed my @$$ off about how I didn't know what was going on and acted like I was entertained by the fact that they were p!ssed at me.

After that, everyone started paying much more attention to me. I easily turned low social value to high social value. I know I said I "acted" this way or that, but that's just to paint the picture of how I was acting to you guys--I know I've internalized this stuff because I was just doing what was natural, which truly was just laughing it off.
 

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dude look up the RSD nation field report forum...many really good college FR's to read thru....
especially "the college choad" one
 

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I really can't count today's entry as a "field report"--nothing physical really happened.
But I did have a couple realizations.

I was thinking about the whole thing of having fun and letting women see it because they'll be attracted to that, as well as getting that certain mental state--and that's something that'll help me out a lot.

Usually I consider myself a really chill person who's just kind of low key and goes with the flow. Today, I lived a day with higher energy and stayed focused on the world around me instead of thinking about things internally. I found it MUCH easier to be social, and the idea of being outgoing was much less daunting.

Contrary to the last few days, I managed to just start talking to a few people without hesitation because it felt natural in the mental state I was in. Now I don't read RSD much but it seems like that's what they're all about over there, and now I see it's for a great reason.

Also, I learned to stop worrying about the image I was giving off--kind of paradoxical because I had been so insistent on not caring what others think that I overly tried too much to give an aura of not caring what others think, to the point where it was no longer genuine. The POINT of a social interaction isn't to show off how cool you are--it's to CONNECT with someone and ENJOY the time you're spending together.

I realized this during my first class today. It's a small one, like 25 people. We were all introducing themselves. Everyone was just giving their name, high school, major, black n white sh!t like that. BORING. I was one of the last ones to go, and I wanted to just lighten up the mood a bit. I wasn't trying to be funny, seem like the funny guy, or make myself look cool--I just wanted to ease the tension for everyone and was willing to risk looking foolish to do it.

I started with my name and then said "I went to school somewhere in the suburbs", to which a bunch of people cracked up, and one girl shouted out how sketchy that sounded, to which I replied, "Well, I just gotta keep some mystery..." I continued and told the professor (this is an english class) that I honestly hadn't actually read a single of the books for english class in high school since sophomore year, but that I was OBVIOUSLY going to change this year. Everyone got a kick out of that, and afterward a couple kids cracked some jokes with me. All about just vibing.

It's hard making new friends--you can't just talk to someone for 5, 10 minutes and just say "let's hang out" unless you have a REALLY good conversation. It's all about getting a group of people together--a lot of people feel awkward in one-on-one situations.

Funny thing that happened

In a lecture class, I sat next to some girl who was kinda cute. I made a joke about something she had written down, and she LITERALLY looks at me, smiles for a few seconds, and doesn't say a word.

Weird. It's like an IOI and an IOD at the same time. I almost continued into some random banter to keep the interaction going, but didn't. Then like 10 seconds later, she responded to me in a heavy accent. I tried talking with her for a bit, but it was too much of a hassle saying only words she'd understand, and class started. Cute foreign chick.

That's basically a couple highlights of the day--on to tomorrow, to meet some more people!!!! (some of those people being hot b!tches)
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Damn...it feels much longer than 2 days since I've updated. I've been busy as hell here with classes, working out, practice, all that sh!t. Anyway.

Yesterday and today, I was horny as FWCKING HELL. Holy sh!t. I haven't jacked it since about a week ago, and wow. Today I literally had trouble focusing on my homework while in the library. I got a boner every time I sat down. I felt super aggressive and literally just about to pounce on every single girl I saw.

The reason I bring that up is simply because I think this horniness is kind of helping guide me to a sexual state of mind. I'm making eye contact with every single girl I see. I get many more smiles from them. I feel more confident and more willing to show off positive energy.

Yesterday I tried to talk to that foreign girl who smiled silently at me in class--not much came out of it. I kinoed her on the shoulder lightly while walking by, asked her about buying textbooks or some sh!t, then that was the end of the interaction. Either low interest or just shy.

Another random asian girl (who was actually kinda cute for an asian girl) stopped me, asking VERY nicely for directions to a room in a building. I walked her there but didn't get her name or anything. Maybe I should have.

At night, I went to Target with my two roommates. While waiting in line, I started talking to some random girl in line. I can't even remember how the conversation started, but I think she opened by saying I should put my stuff on the conveyer belt or something. She was cool, but that was it.

Also met a girl from Germany. It was cool because I took German in high school so I spoke with her a little bit. Not much at all cuz I had to get going and was with some other guys. I know I'll be seeing her soon though, because we play the same sport for our school. In fact, I'll probably see her tomorrow night because I guess the men's and women's teams hang out together a lot and there's a party tomorrow night that both teams are going to.

A really cute, yet tall (taller than me) girl from England ran over to me when I was doing my freshman duty of carrying the water after practice and begged for some water. I teased her, asking how much money she had, saying it would be $10 or something. She said "oh shut up" and we talked for a bit before I had to get going. DAMn that british accent is fwcking cute. I like that sh!t. I'll be seeing her tomorrow night too.


Seriously though guys, I recommend quitting masturbation. Or just going on a HUGE binge where you jack off as much as you can for like 3 days, then just stop completely. Holy sh!t I feel like fwcking Superman right now with how much energy I have. My sexual energy is so fwcking high I literally feel like a sexual predator. I was [] close to just going up behind a girl and rubbing my **** on her a$$.

EDIT: Forgot, two days ago there was a little banquet for all the student-athletes. After we had ate and everyone left, there were some people playing volleyball. I literally walked over and sat right down next to some random girl I didn't know. I did it all cuz I was feeling so ****ing awesome. On my way over, we made eye contact and she smiled.

I said "hi" and for about the entire first 10 seconds, we just held eye contact and said nothing as I sat down. Then I felt a little goofy and started talking. But the point is it's not WHAT you say, but HOW you say it. Or even just how you ACT. Had a great conversation with her. She had a boyfriend though. I'll probably be seeing her around too, she's an athlete.
 

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Chicks are attracted to a man who is having a good time. Today I was genuinely in a great fwcking mood, and I could tell I was getting a lot more attention from girls than yesterday, when I felt a little sh!tty due to sleep deprivation. It really all is about your state of mind.

Just be willing to talk to people. Today I was saying hi to more and more random strangers just because I was in such a good mood and felt like spreading the happiness. I was walking down the street, and walking across was a guy with glasses who seemed really shy and was avoiding eye contact. I smiled and said hi to him, and it gave him the courage to open up and ask me where the volleyball courts were that he was looking for, and I told him. See, all you gotta do is put yourself on the line socially and open up to people. You gotta open up to people.
 

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Friday Night

Party--alas, it was too short.

A girl on the women's team of my sport threw a party for her 21st at this guy's loft here in the city. Mostly it was the men's and women's teams and some other friends who were there, so it was pretty easy for everyone to start talking and getting to know each other.

My friend brought some asian girl to my apartment before we went (she was actually pretty cute despite my usual aversion to asian chicks, but had a bf, didn't really get a chance to talk to her), my friend met my two roommates, and we went. When we got there, there was a corner where the attention was gathered, but all the seats were taken. I didn't want to stand on the outside so I went around talking to some random people, greeting the host girl too.

One thing really pissed me off. A very cute girl from the women's team, straight from England, was attention wh0ring the fwck out of everyone! The WHOLE time she had all my teammates surrounding her, talking about her bf back in England while all the guys were being chumps telling her to break up with him and sh!t like that. God damn I seriously lost so much interest in her after witnessing that. Such a fwcking attention wh0re. I tried to change the subject a few times, but to no avail. I even told her she should just become a lesbo.

I brought up my good ol' icebreaker to get a co-ed group of people laughing and lightened up--what is a weird thing you're attracted to in the opposite sex. That b!tch said "English guys". Sheesh, the other guys did not help even the score at all.

After I was quite drunk, I talked to another European chick for quite a while. She was really nice and cute enough. Kinoed her a few times, no reciprocation. Alright, maybe they're not touchy in her home country. After like 10-15 minutes of nonstop conversation, I told her to come get a drink of water with me. I got up, she stayed sitting down. Damn.

All of a sudden, everyone was gone. I later found out that they went to a club. My roommates had told me to come in the cab with them and go, but in my drunken state I was too stubborn to listen and they had to hurry so they left me there. I was sooooo pissed off because I'm underage, but I would have been able to get in because the host girl had rented out the club.

On another note, I had refrained from jerking off for a whole week so I was horny as hell. As soon as I got back to the apartment after the party, I jerked off. Wow, people really aren't kidding when they say that your desire increases when you're drunk but your ability decreases. I could barely feel anything...Guess that's how drunken sex lasts forever. Anyway, I'm back at square one, so the horniness meter will start building up day by day again...

That's really all I have to report. Had a little text convo with a really nerdy, smart, but surprisingly cute muslim girl who went to my high school. I have a class with her three times a week, hadn't really talked to her in it yet, but I told her to meet me before class tomorrow so that we could walk together.
 

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I've had a little realization the last few days...

For the last year, I've been so obsessed with the bada$$, cold-hearted image of a man's man. It was defined by Daniel Craig in the new James Bond movies. I kept trying to act like him.

Nooooo, not the way to go.

Back home in the real world, I'm not going to be fwcking up bad guys on a daily basis. Acting like a cold-hearted bada$$ is just gonna be weird. I've opened up much more socially. In the big city here, I'm constantly surrounded by strangers. I've actually noticed that I actually want to talk to and interact with people I don't know. I'm actually interested in other people and seeing things from a different perspective.

Being socially intelligent and outgoing is a trait of a man.



Also, I forgot where I read this--but this is GOLD. Get into a habit of smiling whenever you see a person, particularly when you're around an attractive girl--it'll naturally get you in a better mood when you're around girls. I used to always get nervous around hot girls, and very critical--I would start thinking things like "what an attention wh0re. don't boost her ego. don't give her eye contact." Very counterproductive. In street day game, the first boundary you gotta get over is displaying that you're a normal, social human being and not a psycho killer or antisocial nerd.
 

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Whew...lotsa random sh!t that I didn't have time to write about cuz I had a busy @$$ week. But it's about time to make an update.

Monday--walked to class with that smart arab girl. Gotta take things slow with her, she's real shy. Definitely a relationship-type girl though, and I don't think I want to get into that.

Can't remember much else about the week. I feel so much more outgoing now. When I'm in an elevator with a stranger, it feels more normal for me to open a conversation with them than to not open one. Smiling and trying to make eye contact with every girl I see. Gotten a few smile backs here and there.

My Student Ambassador

So for my Honors College every freshman had a student ambassador, an upperclassman in the Honors College who was supposed to help us out and answer questions and sh!t. They wrote us a letter and called us over the summer. I remember talking to mine over the summer, she was a chick who sounded cool. Last week or something I met her at some event for Honors College, but it was a group setting so I didn't really talk to her much.

Friday I'm walking to a study room when I see her working at the desk. She's pretty cute and seems like my type of girl. Just so happened that I didn't have time to shave that morning. :mad: Oh well. We chatted for a bit, I found out she's gonna study abroad next semester or something. Just a chill little talk, I didn't try to make anything sexual because socially I sensed it just wasn't the right place for it. I mean, she was sitting behind a big @$$ desk, no chance for kino or anything.

I know where to find her now. I'll just drop in every once in a while and start getting to know her better. This isn't a standard approach where I # close and just go for it. This is a game that will be won slowly--can't hit on her just yet. Once we build some connections though, you can be sure I'll make my move :yes:

Last Night
My school SUCKS for girls, so I've made a point of becoming good friends with some people from my high school who are going to a different school in the same city with MUCH better girls. I've become pretty cool with this one guy--he's really social, is good at meeting girls, really likes me too, really enjoys my style of humor. Makes me look good.

Last night around midnight he brought 3 girls from his school to my place. Initially they were just looking for a safe place to crash for a sec because one girl was completely wasted and they were scared and taking care of her.

So 3 girls--
-HBHighSchool--one of the hottest girls at my high school, wouldn't have given me the time of day last year. She was the drunk one, didn't really say anything all night
-HBTan--pretty cute brunette
-HBBlonde--less attractive than the other two but still not bad. definitely better than the chicks at my school.

So I take them up to my sweet-a$$ place. My roommates are out of town. The girls seem to be barely acknowledging me at first even though they're coming into my fwcking place, so I give them the same sh!t back by basically ignoring them at first. Share some stories with my friend while he's taking care of HBHighSchool. Other two chicks are bouncing around, outside on the balcony on their phones n sh!t. I keep ignoring them.

I decide to cook a really nice cheeseburger for my friend. He loves it. Chill fora bit, the girls are finally now in the same room. Earlier I had asked them if they wanted any water or food or anything and they said no. After a little bit of chatting, I stood up and said to HBTan, "I'm making some food for you. I don't give a fwck what you say, you're not going hungry in my house."

I did this because I knew she was hungry, but I didn't want it to seem like I was doing something for her. It was really more for myself. When I handed her a wrap that I made, I looked her in the eye and told her to tell me if she liked it because I had never put mayo in it before.

I was much moreinterested in my own cooking than whatever they had to say. Then we all finally started talking together.

Whole time I knew I was presenting myself as a dominant male--I had been asking the girls to fetch me random sh!t at times and I remember I said a few things that they all just listened to, as well as a couple good stories.

Some time passes, I'm starting to get to know the girls. Both have had bfs for over a year. (HBHighSchool was pretty much out already) Fwck that. I changed the topic quickly after they mentioned that. I hadn't gotten enough IOIs to really start hitting on either one, so I just kept playing it cool and making good conversation. We talked about a lot of sh!t.

Found out from HBTan some interesting stuff about financial aid that I was genuinely excited to hear-I then blurted out "I'm so glad you came" (which turned out to be a good neg!) Then we all laughed it off and I said "Yeah...I'm an *******."

When it was really late, I busted out one of my favorite party questions--what is a WEIRD trait in the opposite sex that you find attractive. As usual, the girls gave me typical BS like "good smile, nice person", whatever. I'm looking for WEIRD. Then I share mine--that I like girls who are really good at math. HBBlonde then tells me she's a math major.

I turned to her in disbelief. I said that I found that reeeeeally attractive. Everyone was laughing, but I was half serious. Asked her sh1t like what did she get on the math section of the ACT, more laughs. Then said "I gotta get your number. I don't care if you have a boyfriend. Not now though cuz my phone is charging" She said "I'll give it to you."

I know she sees me as high value because earlier she asked if I could sleep in my bed (i wasn't in it, we were all kinda sleeping on the couch together) and said "is it clean? lotta girls all over it?" I told her that I keep it very clean (believable because I make my bed every day), and that my rule is that no one can sleep in it unless they take their clothes off. She laughed and then refused, and my buddy and the other girl laughed at what we were talking about.

We all woke up early the next morning cuz I had to show them to the bus stop. Before we parted ways, I turned to HBBlonde and straight-up said "Gimme your number." Everyone laughed at my directness. Got the number, sent her a text on the spot saying it was me so that she had mine too.

Once again though...slow game on this girl too. Not enough interest from her to just go for it. Gotta connect with her more in a group setting before I hit on her, otherwise it'll come off as creepy and destroy my budding reputation at this other school, which is VERY important right now because I want to have a social circle there since the girls are so much better.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

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And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Looks like I gotta get used to slow game, or improve my physical appearance/initial impression on people.

All about high value, and/or good looks. They kinda go together.

I've always noticed that when I get introduced to girls by good friends, they always show more interest because I'm already presented as someone who is liked or loved.

In most group settings though, I've found that most girls don't really show a lot of interest in me right away. Something about me is putting them off. Could be my looks, my semi-fwcked up eyes (i have strabismus), or the fact that I'm asian and they have negative schemas of sexual attractiveness of asian guys in their heads. Whatever it is, I don't care. I'm doing whatever I can to improve that side--working out and trying to stay groomed and dressed as well as I can.

Most people like me once they get to know me though. Whenever I meet someone new, I always have this unbreakable confidence that they'll get to like me. Arrogant? Whatever. I feel really good about my style of life and am completely comfortable with bringing anyone into it.
 

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Lots..lots..lots....long entry here, bear with me

Friday, Sept 10, 2010

New target

I'll call her HBRH. Have a class with her, the same one where I told the professor how I never read a book and everyone lightened up. So far, haven't hit on any of the girls, just establishing my "cool guy" image.

Yesterday I got to class early and HBRH sat down beside me to my left. She's the cutest girl in the class. Didn't really say anything, and class started. On her left is another, less cute girl. Think I talked to the other girl for a sec, don't remember, but she showed some definite IOIs with extra eye contact. Great, maybe use her to kind of draw in HBRH because they were talking to each other.

We were reading something, and I was confused because I was in the wrong book. HBRH told me, and we and the other girl laughed. Think I talked to her a tiny bit after that but then class was over.

Until next class...

Cute Student Ambassador

So far at college I've been wearing athletic shorts and t-shirts. Yesterday I decided to put on jeans and a new polo I bought, and damn did I feel like one sexy bastard walking around.

After class I went to the desk she was working and gave a her a sheet I had to turn in. We chatted for a couple seconds but there were like 10 people in line she had to take care of.

Brought the old C&F back...
Me: "You still sick?"
Her: "No actually, I'm feeling better now blah blah..."
Me: "Cuz you're talking to me"

She seems to be showing more interest. It could just be that she's being nice because she's supposed to help me out as my student ambassador, but it doesn't really matter for me right now either way. I mean, I'm gaming her slowly, but I can't just keep dropping in at her work forever without asking her out.

I really wanted to stay and talk to her more to develop some more comfort and rapport, but she was really busy and I'd look like a fool standing around until all the people were gone.

After my next class I went back to talk to her but she wasn't there anymore. :mad:

Baseball Game

Went to an MLB game with a co-ed educational frat. There were some weird-ass people, but the tickets were paid for so I went. The president or whatever of the frat was the only girl there I would consider very cute. She was really nice too, and I talked to her here and there. Nothing interesting though, because it was all frat stuff mostly.

Ended up sitting next to a short, skinny mexican girl who I'd give a rating of 5, maybe 5.5. She was very boring and bland. However, I decided to practice my skills. Built quite a bit of rapport with her and tried to flirt with her here and there. She seemed pretty interested--always laughing at my sh!t and reinitiating when the convo died down. Kinoed me a bit. Didn't really flirt back when I did, but I chalk that up to her inexperience.

Random stuff from our interaction
Me: "So you said you like the atmosphere of baseball games?"
Her: "Yeah, blah blah"
Me: cutting her off "Obviously. You just like being with me"
Her: "hahhahha, oh yeah you're my hero"

I teased her a tiny bit about being Mexican and being short. I've learned to be careful with things people don't have control over. For some reason I kept telling her that she was going to clean my bathroom. She told me to say something in Chinese and I refused and told her to clean my sh!t.

She's just a boring girl who works part time to pay for college, doesn't have many friends, and took her nephews and nieces to Disney World for her 21st birthday. Not ugly by any means. Just plain, and not very much fun to talk to.

She was nice though. I was moving my hips with the music at one point and we talked about dancing. She modestly implied that she's REALLY good at dancing. That actually intrigued me, because I love good dancers. I told her to show me how to dance sometime...along with clean my bathroom and cook for me.

Even a 5 had a little sh!t test for me. She told me she wasn't allowed to hang out with pledges (of the frat). I didn't really ace the test, I just replied with "Oh that's funny". Then she said she was just kidding and I called her out on trying to get a reaction out of me.

As the night wore on, I felt more natural around her...she was leaning forward to see if the train was coming, and I pretended to push her into the tracks. When we stood up, I had to comment on how much taller I was than her, and she proceeded to guess my height correctly. I told her she was checking me out too much and that I felt violated.

I had been planning on walking her home and k-closing her, but turns out I had to really hurry to get to a party for a different frat (I was getting into a club for free, couldn't pass that up!). Was going to #-close her then, should have just done it earlier, but at the end it was weird because I was saying bye to the group. The cute Indian chick, the president, gave me a huge goofy grin and told me to sign up for their interview for the frat. "Wow...nice smile" I said and they laughed.

The Club

This was with the other frat that I'm interested in potentially joining. These guys are pretty cool. One of them gave me a fake that he found for free within 30 min of meeting me a couple nights ago.

I get there like 45 min after everyone else does, but they're all excited to see me. High five and greet everyone. The club is pretty damn loud. There's actually quite a shortage of girls, and there were some weird like 35 year old people there too.

Most of the night I just hung around, enjoyed the music, and had fun with the guys. Looked for girls to dance with but the pickings were super slim. Saw a girl dancing with a guy, and her friend dancing by herself so I slipped right in and put my hand on her belly. She started dancing, but then her friend told me that that girl has a bf and that he was there that night.

Probably should have talked to some of the chicks that the frat guys knew. I just didn't really want to because it was so damn loud.

The kid who gave me the fake, who seemed like one of two guys in the frat with the most game, told me to approach these 2 chicks together. We did and both started dancing. That is when this happened. Pretty funny, and I probably could have gotten some action last night if I escalated right then and there on the dance floor instead of dancing until she said she had to go to the bathroom.

The kid who gave me the fake took her home. Dammit, I at least should have gotten her number! Even if I don't hook up with her she seemed like a really good female friend to have and expand my social network.

Long, but good day.
 

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Saturday, Sept 11, 2010

So the night started out with my roommates having a few other people from our team over, as well as a couple girls from the girls team. Just talked for a bit and chilled, nothing much. I played a little guitar for everyone and we hung out. Went out to a party that got busted, so we went back home.

There were 3 girls in the group
-very cute british girl. Is in a LTR, also an AW. I have to admit, I'd do her given the chance.
-british girl's roommate. Was weird and had a nose ring. Not very interested in her.
-German girl. Pretty cute and nice. I'd consider her my "target". One of my roommates has been talking to her quite a bit too...all fair game as of right now.

Didn't talk to any of the girls much. Whenever I'm in a group and there's an AW grabbing every guy's attention, I just get annoyed and completely ignore her. Sometimes this leaves me isolated because FWCKING EVERYONE is orbiting her.

One last thing though is I was at a party later and DUMB DUMB DUMB. I told some random girl that I want to hook up with my cute student ambassador. That girl knows my name and what I look like, so there's a definite chance that she'll pass the message on to my student ambassador. Whatever.
 
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Friday-Saturday

Not much to report really...

Went to a mixer with a frat I'm pledging to, where a frat and a sorority party together. Met some pretty cool guys. As soon as the girls got there though, I was lost. Everyone was greeting each other like they were best friends and I was left out. I had to go home early so I didn't meet any girls.

Tonight--just got home from getting into a club for the first time!! It was pretty cool. Went with my roommate, and a couple other guys and girls. I really have no idea how to dance though. I was tipsy so I was just moving my body with the music but I have no idea if I looked like a fool. Whatever.

As I type, my roommate's talkin to some chick at our place right now. Hope he seals the deal, he's had his eye on her for a while :cheer:
 

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yo sage keep that jizzing in your pants thing to yourself. she may laugh, but that's a "friendly" laugh. back when i was a sophmore in highschool i thought beating my meat off 17 times in one day was the sh1t, because it ment that i could keep up with any girl, so i told my friends about it. people thought it was funny, but it didn't help me get too much with women. they get the wrong impression.

Off topic : I hope u decide on a frat, despite the $$ prices
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hahaha yeah the jizzing in my pants thing was in no way a means of trying to game. I was drunk, having a good time, and for some reason felt like sharing it with that chick.

Funny thing that you mention frats. I was just at induction night for one with some pretty cool guys. One of them gave me some fake that he found on the first night of meeting me. Tight as hell.

Anyway, I'm tired as hell so I don't feel like going into detail. I've chatted up a couple random chicks with random, legitimate situational openers. Nothing to write home about. Basically in the last couple days I've learned why it's ATTRACTION, then comfort, then seduction.

I kinda tried taking a "natural game" mindset lately. Well, I've found I don't really have what it takes for it just yet. For natural game, I gotta become a more sexual being who is experienced and has direction. It seems like I do need to learn some more outer game. Primarily game for generating ATTRACTION.

Attraction is necessary to build comfort. If a girl isn't attracted to you in the first place, they won't even contribute to a conversation to let you build comfort. If they do, it's just with friendly intentions, which in the end is just gonna fwck you up more because it's wasting your time.

Literally I've just chatted a couple random girls, and the conversation doesn't amount to much. They might show a little interest here and there, but it's not much. In their mind, I'm just any other guy who's chatting with them. And THAT'S why sh!t like DHV and negging is important. I "get" it a little more now.

Gonna read up on some outer game and go sarge...not til the weekend though. I'm balls deep with more important stuff right now.

EDIT: And yeah I'd have to fwcking pay $275 in dues if I want to be in that frat. It's shaky man...
 

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Wednesday, September 22, 2010

Sh!t so tired and low on sleep...I really wanted to post this yesterday but I literally did not have 10 minutes to sit down and type.

So this week I've started doing a new routine in the morning. When I wake up, I watch porn for about 5-10 minutes without touching my d!ck or anything. I get into a highly aroused and sexualized state.

Let me tell you, it is like a jolt of LIFE in the morning. I did it just to get some energy to wake up and go work out. It works wonders. When you're fwcking tired as hell in the morning, watch some porn, don't jack off, get highly aroused, and you'll have tons of motivation to go work out.

Yesterday

Yesterday I did just that. I woke up, watched porn, got pumped up as hell, and went and did a killer ab workout. I could feel the testosterone raging through my body (plus I haven't jerked off in about a week). Came back to my room, showered, ate a healthy breakfast, put on a shirt that fits me well, left for class feeling great.

I'm going down the stairs of my apartment complex and someone's rushing down behind me. I held the door for her and kept going, not thinking about anything.

Walk out on to the street and the girl passes me, walking faster and listening to her iPod.

I promise you, I wasn't even thinking about picking up, no approach anxiety or anything, I was just feeling so good and social that I commented "You seem like you're in a bit of a rush".

She took her headphones off and asked me to repeat what I said. Blah blah we started talking as we're walking to class together. We actually have a great conversation, and she's pretty cute. Nothing sexual. She asked my age, I told her to guess, she said 21. Saweeeeeeeeet, I'm only 18 my dear. She's 21.

She wants to be a lawyer. Tells me some interesting sh!t about it. Keeps the convo going when it dies down. I'm taking a class on existentialism and I tell her about it, explaining to her what the f it even means. High five her a couple times when we agree on a couple things.

All ok-ish until the close. We get to the library where she has to be, I think I was the one who looked like I was just about to walk away, when she asked for my name. Told her, got her name, she was about to say "bye" when I said "Lemme get your number. We should have a..party. With our roommates." (as you can see, I stumbled a bit) She gave it to me, then said bye REALLY FAST.

Sent her a text immediately after saying who it was. Still haven't gotten a response.

Well...

I'm pretty sure of what I did wrong. I mean, I won't count this out just yet, I'll send her a text this weekend inviting her and her roommate to come meet my roommates and chill, but I doubt she'll come.

I wasn't clear with my intentions--I was dancing back and forth between direct and indirect.

I should have closed more indirectly, based on the conversation we had, since it was just friendly and could have taken place between two guys, two girls, not necessarily a guy and a girl. I should have said "Hey we should walk to class together again, what's your number?"

The having a party with our roommates together kinda came outta nowhere and probably sounded weird to her.

Or better yet, I could have been more direct right from the start. If I had thrown in a few flirty comments here and there and showed some interest, then I could have easily said something like "Give me your number, let's get together and have some fun :)" or "Let me take you out sometime and show you some fun," and she would have either said yes or rejected me. So much better.

I was content with just breaking out socially at college, now time to be a man...
 

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Thursday, September 23, 2010

English Class

I have an English class with about 25 people in it. Usually I'm late to class and sit in the front row because all the other seats are taken. I'm usually up there with a couple weird people and some weird ***** nerd.

Evidently I have high value in that class. In the first week or two of class, I was pretty actively participating, and it was clear the teacher liked me. I even told a story that a lot of people enjoyed.

Now in this class, half are girls, but almost all of them are ugly and undoable. There is, however, one pretty cute Indian chick who seems my type. A couple other girls who aren't bad too.

Today was the first day that I got to class early. I took a spot in between the cute Indian girl (target) and some other girl. Without thinking, I kind of muttered "I'm so sick of the front row" as I sat down. Both girls giggled a little. Alright baby.

I pull out my phone, respond to a text, then start talking to the random girl on my right, not the target. Just opened up with some BS about homework. Then I pulled the target into the interaction and we all started talking a bit.

It was kind of like I was doing pickup routines, because I just kept saying a bunch of funny sh!t about class, our teacher, and stories that they kept laughing at. There was one part that was pretty cool when the convo died down and I was about to say something to the cutie on my left, when I stopped myself because I "just knew" that she was going to open me up again. Sure enough, she did, asking me what high school I went to.

I think for the first time ever, I did a good neg. One that did its purpose of establishing higher value without being an @$$hole or pissing the girl off, unlike my horrid attempts last year. The girl I was interested was wearing braces, and I said "I like your braces. I don't usually see too many people nowadays wearing them." It was ambiguous with seemingly good intentions, and she responded "Thanks..." but laughed it off. Easy situational neg.

I kinda got ****blocked by class starting. Everything was set up well, she was warmed up, and then we had to be quiet and listen to the teacher talk. This happened before I was able to personally connect with her at all. We were just talking and laughing about random sh!t, and I didn't find out anything about her other than common icebreakers like "whats your major". I didn't even get her name, even though I knew what it was from class.

Then we broke off into group discussions, and she was in a different group than me :mad:. I was with four other chicks, none of them attractive except maybe one, and I made sure to be fun and social with them. Introduced myself to everyone and kind of led our discussion. The cute Indian girl was sitting right next to us, so she knows I'm a social guy.

Then class ended, everyone was leaving, and I felt weird re-engaging her. That's when I realized that it was because I didn't make any sort of personal connection with her. Dammit, I let it be and let her walk out of class ahead of me. She was taking her sweet time, maybe hoping for me to chat her up again...

Well, bad timing and last-minute puss-out on my part. I won't see her again until class on Tuesday. A plus is that that day I'll be dressed in a dress shirt and tie for something :up:. Gotta make sure I sit next to her.

Runner Girl

Before practice, I was going to go fill up a water cooler for the team. When I walked in the room, there was a girl standing in a tub full of water with a painful look on her face. I chatted her up, we talked for a bit. She was cute. I found out she runs cross country and track. She had competed against a girl from my school who I asked to prom.

No number close...We talked for less than 2 minutes and I had to get to practice. I got her name, and since we're both athletes hopefully we'll see each other around again at the athletic center...
 

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Crazy busy, only have time for a tiny update.

Have talked to a few more random girls here and there. Getting much more social. Have talked to random people on the street and girls I wasn't interested in just because I felt like it.

Saturday--went to a club it was sick. Only thing I'll note is that I tried my first-ever direct approach. Got away from my group, walked up to some random girl who I thought was alone but was actually with a group of guys AND girls, and said "Hi I think you're really pretty and just had to come over and tell you." She said thanks, didn't seem that interested, then it got kinda awkward cuz I like had nowhere to go with it. I asked her name, didn't hear it the first time around and it got more awkward. Ended up just giving up and telling her to have a good night after a bit.

Honestly though, I just felt really good afterward that I did the approach.

Yesterday--talked to that girl I met at the athletic center who was injured. We were both in the weight room, no one else there really, she talked to me while on her bike. Real cute and nice and seemed pretty interested, reengaging me in convo and asking questions and stuff. Afterward, I kinda felt bad for not getting her number but it just felt kinda weird.

Today--did group work in English class with that cute indian girl. Not really any chance for talking. Saw her like 5 minutes later after class ended, it was kinda weird, we had nothing to talk about, and I was trying to look up a bus schedule at the same time. Plus the whole timme during class an opener had been running in my mind, Icouldn't stop thinking about it, and it just made me feel more weird when I finally said it because it felt so unnatural.
 

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Yesterday I saw the cute girl who I talked to while working out in some random hallway and only had time for a quick "hi". Today I saw her again in the athletic center, on her way to the trainer's room.

Her: Hey
Me: Hey...seein you everywhere. You stalkin me?
Her: I think it's the other way around...
Me: You do have a point, since I was behind you

we walk into the trainers room

We said like 2 words after that, she was in pain from an injury and I said "that's rough" and walked away. She was on the ground stretching, I had to go work out, and I felt weird bending down to talk to her while all the trainers were in the room.
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I do seem to see her around a lot...but I just seem to need more. More attraction, more rapport. Then # close and see what happens.

In other news...

One of my best and hottest female friends from high school fb chatted me last night and might be coming to visit soon. I would fwck the SH1T outta her but that's probably gotta wait til I'm rich and famous :whistle:. Anyway, she's bringing her roommate who is pretty cute and she already hinted at hooking me up with her.

Yay
 
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