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Cold approach today - what could of I done better?

tomwesten27

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At 9:30am today I was at the local Starbucks and I happened to notice this Restaurant/Bar was opened next door. This beautiful girl was outside cleaning the menus and smiled at me, so I decided to take a moment and then make a cold approach...

I walked inside and this is how the interaction went:

Me: Hey how you doing? How long you been open for?
Her: Hey! We have been open a year actually.
Me: Oh wow I just noticed this spot today..hows the food?
Her: The food great! I like the Chicken Parm and (some other dish she said)
Me: Oh nice, I'll have to try it sometime...I'm picky on Italian food because I am from NY..
Her: I'm from New York too!
(at this point she is at full attention, stopped cleaning the menus and was sorta lingering around close to me)
Me: Oh wow thats awesome, always great to meet another New Yorker out here...what nationality are you?
Her: I'm Puerto Rican and you?
Me: I was gonna say a pretty girl like you, I knew you were Puerto Rican ;)
(she smiles)
Me: Whats your name? I'm Tom
Her: My names Jessica, nice to meet you.
Me: What brought you out here?
Her: I am an actress!
(random chit chat about acting)

It was really slow being it was 930am and seemed like she didn't want to look like she wasn't working so she ended up saying:

Her: "hey it was nice meeting you, you should come in sometime and try the food!"
Me: Yeah I will, see you later!


I left thinking....why didn't I get her number....the convo was honestly 1 minute long, it was fast. My female friend that was with me told me she seemed into me....

How could I of number closed? Or what could I have done differently from the start? Should I have skipped the chip chat and went right for it?

Also should I go back again another day?
 

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tomwesten27 said:
At 9:30am today I was at the local Starbucks and I happened to notice this Restaurant/Bar was opened next door. This beautiful girl was outside cleaning the menus and smiled at me, so I decided to take a moment and then make a cold approach...

I walked inside and this is how the interaction went:

Me: Hey how you doing? How long you been open for?
Her: Hey! We have been open a year actually.
Me: Oh wow I just noticed this spot today..hows the food?
Her: The food great! I like the Chicken Parm and (some other dish she said)
Me: Oh nice, I'll have to try it sometime...I'm picky on Italian food because I am from NY..
Her: I'm from New York too!
(at this point she is at full attention, stopped cleaning the menus and was sorta lingering around close to me)
Me: Oh wow thats awesome, always great to meet another New Yorker out here...what nationality are you?
Her: I'm Puerto Rican and you?
Me: I was gonna say a pretty girl like you, I knew you were Puerto Rican ;)
(she smiles)
Me: Whats your name? I'm Tom
Her: My names Jessica, nice to meet you.
Me: What brought you out here?
Her: I am an actress!
(random chit chat about acting)

It was really slow being it was 930am and seemed like she didn't want to look like she wasn't working so she ended up saying:

Her: "hey it was nice meeting you, you should come in sometime and try the food!"
Me: Yeah I will, see you later!


I left thinking....why didn't I get her number....the convo was honestly 1 minute long, it was fast. My female friend that was with me told me she seemed into me....

How could I of number closed? Or what could I have done differently from the start? Should I have skipped the chip chat and went right for it?

Also should I go back again another day?
I don't approach people that are paid to be nice to you, but fair play to you. You could of number closed by saying "whats your number" You seemed to do okay on this one :)
 

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Just say: I like talking to you, would you like to continue this conversation some other time?

If she says yes, you ask for her number. I like that better than going for her number DIRECTLY. See, by asking her if she wants to continue the conversation some other time, you have more certainty about her interest level. If you go for her number DIRECTLY, she might just give it to be "polite" and flake later on. But when you ask if she wants to continue the convo some other time, she will answer more honestly. When she says "yes" to that, exchanging numbers will only be a formality, needed to setup the meeting to which she just agreed.
 

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mustfirstregister said:
Since it was slow u could have ask her to show u the kitchen and fclosed
This is a joke right?
tomwesten27 said:
How could I of number closed? Or what could I have done differently from the start? Should I have skipped the chip chat and went right for it?
You didn't need to number close at that moment because you know where to find her again.

And in my opinion, NEVER go for a girls number right away. You want her to give you a reason to want her number so talk first.
tomwesten27 said:
Also should I go back again another day?
Don't be offended but this is a stupid question to ask.

If you're interested in her then the answer to this question is a no brainer.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Lets be honest, she knew what you wanted the moment you approached. Arbitrarily delaying the time to ask her out isn't very efficient when you cold approach.

Ask her and get it over with or you'll build this up in your head to be something it isn't and face possible disappointment at time wasted if she doesn't bite..
 

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G_Govan said:
Lets be honest, she knew what you wanted the moment you approached...
And what is that? Just remember, interest is only SUPERFICIAL and it can disappear real fast. A pretty face should never be the only reason why you would want to spend time with a girl.
G_Govan said:
Arbitrarily delaying the time to ask her out isn't very efficient when you cold approach.
Delaying time? Is that what you call it? I call it getting a feel for what you're getting in to.

No man should ever have the urge to want a girl's number without her proving herself UNLESS either of you are short off time.
G_Govan said:
Ask her and get it over with or you'll build this up in your head to be something it isn't and face possible disappointment at time wasted if she doesn't bite..
If a girl isn't feeling you and doesn't want to give you her number why is it a "disappointment"?

Don't get me wrong G Govan I'm not starting an argument but your method will result in alot of flakes.

If you go for a number immediately I GUARANTEE you'll get more flakes.

Having a girl's number is useless if it doesn't lead to anything else.
 

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Late response, but my point is, he already had a nice conversation with her. Asking for the number afterward would've been very productive.

She's in a position where she'll be kind/flirt with men to get business. Women like these are notorious for sending out false IOIs. If you're going to make an attempt, especially given you aren't a regular customer, you might as well go for it at the first encounter.

She's not going to be impressed with you more by delaying the time you ask her out, you'll get a "feel" for what she's about on the actual date. She already knows what you want and has nothing else to evaluate you on other than what you presented during the cold approach. If you're going to swing at this ball, you might as well try to knock it out of the park.
 
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