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Cold approach situation

keemojung

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Last week i did cold approach and got three numbers.

All those chicks, at first, when i called them, we had a lil chitchat

and when i tried to ask them out, they would replied with

"im not sure, i gotta see my schedule" everytime.

So, fu(k that, i perceived that as they said NO.


Now, i called them yesterday (each one) and none of them pick up the call

and no return call. So i call them again today, none of them pick up the call

and no return call, no msg.


How should i deal with this situation? NEXT all of them?

The bottom line is it isn't exactly the cold approach.

I approached them using the situational opener like

"Hey! is this the train to go to Central?". And after that we had a chitchat and i went with the flow

They seemed to be receptive and after making rapport and talked

to them like 20 min, i asked their number and they finally gave me.

Now my problem is

Why didn't they pick up my call and also didn't return the call or anything?

What if i changed my way of contact to be sth like teasing text msg?

What do u think i should write on that msg?
 

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This is why i love direct game. She knows what you want and there is no time wasting. You spent 20 min talking to girls that were not interested in you in the same way. If you got direct, its making her say "yes" or "no" to you. The faster you know the answer the better it is for you, so you wont wast your time.
 

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ecko280 said:
This is why i love direct game. She knows what you want and there is no time wasting. You spent 20 min talking to girls that were not interested in you in the same way. If you got direct, its making her say "yes" or "no" to you. The faster you know the answer the better it is for you, so you wont wast your time.
I just use that line

"Hey! is this the train to go to Central?" as opener

but every conversation after that i mainly talk about her

and even c&f her and teasing her and finally number-close her

when i gotta go.



So, what do u think i should do in this situation?
 

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My lines are "Hey, you are adorable."

"Hey, your cute."

"You look lovely"

then you wait for her response. When i done it, i always get a positive response even if i get turn down later when i ask for the number.

once you see her response and she says thank you. then you can go to the situational opener and talk about other things.

Dont care if she rejects you because THIS one rejected you, but the NEXT one wants to F**k you.

No time wasted with direct game.


edit... to answer your question. YES next them all.
 

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ecko280 said:
My lines are "Hey, you are adorable."

"Hey, your cute."

"You look lovely"

then you wait for her response. When i done it, i always get a positive response even if i get turn down later when i ask for the number.

once you see her response and she says thank you. then you can go to the situational opener and talk about other things.

Dont care if she rejects you because THIS one rejected you, but the NEXT one wants to F**k you.

No time wasted with direct game.


edit... to answer your question. YES next them all.

Thx for your suggestion.

But I mean what do u think i shud do in the situation that

they don't pick up my call and no response from them also?

I just try to be positive that may be they are busy.

I think im gonna give them last chance before i next them all.
 

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Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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keemojung said:
Last week i did cold approach and got three numbers.

All those chicks, at first, when i called them, we had a lil chitchat

and when i tried to ask them out, they would replied with

"im not sure, i gotta see my schedule" everytime.

So, fu(k that, i perceived that as they said NO.


Now, i called them yesterday (each one) and none of them pick up the call

and no return call. So i call them again today, none of them pick up the call

and no return call, no msg.


How should i deal with this situation? NEXT all of them?

The bottom line is it isn't exactly the cold approach.

I approached them using the situational opener like

"Hey! is this the train to go to Central?". And after that we had a chitchat and i went with the flow

They seemed to be receptive and after making rapport and talked

to them like 20 min, i asked their number and they finally gave me.

Now my problem is

Why didn't they pick up my call and also didn't return the call or anything?

What if i changed my way of contact to be sth like teasing text msg?

What do u think i should write on that msg?
Good job transitioning with the approach. Directions openers in city game seem to work quite well.
Girls flake, get used to it.
If they told you once that they have to check their schedule, don't call or text them again. Put an IOD(indicator of disinterest) with no call/no contact, and see if they'll contact you back. Because if a girl is really interested, she will do whatever it takes to see you regadless of her schedule.
Get used to not being good at cold approaches, but use it as a motivator to go out and improve yourself.

You don't need to talk to a girl for 20 mins in day game. 2-5 minutes is enough. End the conversation first, and go for the number close.

Go out in the field and keep approaching and getting more numbers.
 

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Deicide said:
Good job transitioning with the approach. Directions openers in city game seem to work quite well.
Girls flake, get used to it.
If they told you once that they have to check their schedule, don't call or text them again. Put an IOD(indicator of disinterest) with no call/no contact, and see if they'll contact you back. Because if a girl is really interested, she will do whatever it takes to see you regadless of her schedule.
Get used to not being good at cold approaches, but use it as a motivator to go out and improve yourself.

You don't need to talk to a girl for 20 mins in day game. 2-5 minutes is enough. End the conversation first, and go for the number close.

Go out in the field and keep approaching and getting more numbers.
But i think it is also possible that they really need to check their schedule

first before making an appointment with us. But some girls, even though

they are interested but thats not enough to return the call.

Can you share me some of your experience which is similar to mine?
 

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keemojung said:
The bottom line is it isn't exactly the cold approach.
you are 100% incorrect. they all flaked because you built no attraction. remember having rapport is not attraction. you should be breaking rapport in the beginning. you can still be direct, but breaking rapport is still needed. thats what makes you a challenge. you need to talk about some completely random topics and burn an attractive image in her mind so she remembers you and doesnt flake.
 

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keemojung said:
But i think it is also possible that they really need to check their schedule

first before making an appointment with us. But some girls, even though

they are interested but thats not enough to return the call.

Can you share me some of your experience which is similar to mine?
One recent example happened last weekend. I was at a retail store and approached a young woman. She seemed surprised I did approach(Day Time Pick-up in the rural south is non-existent). After a couple minutes of talking with her(I did a cold reading about her impulsive behavior for example), I got her phone number. I texted her two days later and she never replied back.
It happens, especially if you're not that experienced with women or in the field. I think with your urban environment your game can flourish as long as you get out and approach.
Where I'm at, I'm not in an ideal situation, but I still approach and make the most of my situation. Yes, I do pick-up in small towns. lol :yes:

And yes, you will run into some cold women. I don't run into them all that much in my area, but I approached one today, who didn't respond well to me, even when I did a "let me guess" thing. It happens, but so many good things come out of the field, even if you didn't get any numbers on your sarge.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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thevilittletroll said:
you are 100% incorrect. they all flaked because you built no attraction. remember having rapport is not attraction. you should be breaking rapport in the beginning. you can still be direct, but breaking rapport is still needed. thats what makes you a challenge. you need to talk about some completely random topics and burn an attractive image in her mind so she remembers you and doesnt flake.
What do u mean by breaking rapport?

I sure did. When talked to them, i talked about their life and stories

and i even c&f them sometimes. For example,

me: u know what i would give you 10 points for your attire.

her: Really?? Thx u (smileee)

me:OHhhh!! i forgot to tell u that the full score is 100.

At least, u got 10% from the full scale, so be happy lady hahaha

her: (some girls will hit me in the arm)

(During this convo, i did some kino like touching her shoulders and forearms)
 

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JxcelDolghmQ said:
My friend, never text them first! Wait, if she texts you, she is yours, and she is right where you want her.
U mean if they didnt reply any of my calls, so dunt text her

and just go NC??
 

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Yesterday morning, some of them called me but i didnt pick up since i was sleeping. I called them last night but they didnt pick up and no return call.

Hahaa WTF!! I didnt think exchanging missed call is another way of communication. - -*
 
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