Cold approach done, got her number now what?

[Who Dares Win]

After the facts happened in here :
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=191405

In order to avoid a bad case of oneitis I decided to take action and did some approaches, one especially got me the number of a cute young girl.

Met her on the supermarket where she was grabbing some stuff, she looked at me and asked me about some stuff she was buying, I smiled and started a little talking with her then told her I wouldnt mind to know her and asked for the number,many smiles from both of us.

Got the number and ringed her phone to make sure it was real and it is in fact, now Im not exactly sure how to proceed especially cause she is kinda young about 19 I think while Im 28 so Im afraid I cant be as forward as Im usually.
Definitely its me the one calling even if she has my num.

My plan was to ask her to go out for a cofee in day time but then realized that the chance for escalate are low there, I could also take her to a club at night and take advantage of the alchool and the close contact to open my way.
The dark environment could help also to avoid someone she knows to see her therefore trigging the "anti-slvt" alarm.

But since I often make stupid mistakes I would appreciate any feedback,especially after the mistakes I idid in other situations (see link up).
What would you do in my place?

About the scheduling in particular is the week end the best option? I would like it more in week days but she probably have school or smt...in case she cannot the day Im asking do I have to expect for a potential counteroffer or its still in my hand to do it?

 

[exile663dfx]

Dude, when I get a number I call,text, do whatever I want when I want. If you wanna ask her now, do it. There is not time frame for this crap and dont let anybody tell you there is. You DO this whenever YOU want. Comon man show her how an alpha does it. Good luck

What makes your fashion style work? Confidence.

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree with you that it's hard to escalate on a coffee date. I meet first dates at a bar. I understand you can't do that because of her age. I don't care for dinner dates either that early on.

I'm thinking either a movie (more conservative approach) or club (more aggressive approach.

Let's look at the club approach. "Hey I want to check out this cool club xyz. Wanna go on x day night?" Certainly dancing in a club can escalate things rapidly. But you REALLY need to have your game on as far as guarding your prey. Understand you a bringing a steak into the lion's den. If you go the club route, here are some tip I learned the hard way:

1. Yes, it's ok to buy her a drink (even if it's a soft drink bar for under 21). But take her WITH you to get the drink. Do not leave her alone and come back with it. If she asks why she needs to come up to the bar, tell her they lots of cool drinks. She should see what they have.

2. Don't drink much so you don't have to piss. At some point, she will have to go. Go then. Odds are, you'll be out of the mens room before she's out of the ladies room. Then you can walk her back to the dancefloor.

3. If you are just chatting, have your backs against a wall or against the bar or sit on a couch. This way some creeper doesn't start grinding her from behind.

4. When on the dancefloor, move to an area that is mostly or preferably all couples. Couples are no threat. Hordes of single sausage are.

5. Also try not to dance close to the DJs booth. It's a big distraction for young chicks. She might spend more time staring at him.


If you decide to do the movie, you hold her hand in the cinema. Then rub the top of it with your fingertips. It's very powerful. Then slowly and gently rub her leg, then inner thigh. She should be hot for a good makeout at the end.

If you go the club route, I'm sure you know how to escalate there. If not I can do another post.

The movie i would do a weeknight, but weekend is ok if that is all she can do. The club depends on which nights it's open.

 

[Mike32ct]

I've never gotten a chick to agree to a club for a first date, but your mileage may vary. The important thing is to always have a backup plan ready in case she declines your first suggestion. Defintely have two completely different plans ready whether it's movie or club, or something else.

I made that mistake LOTS of times:

Mike: Lets meet at xyz bar Thursday night at 8pm.

HB: I don't wanna go to a bar. What else can we do?

Mike: uhhh lemme think

HB: k

Mike: Umm i really don't know. Let me think some more.

HB: I gotta go. Bye.

 

[Mike32ct]

Since she's 19 and you are 28, be prepared to handle the age issue properly. Odds are, she thinks you're a bit younger than 28.

If you want a relationship, be honest. If you just want to b@ng her, it's critical to let her believe what she wants. Have her guess your age. Then agree with whatever she comes up with.

Example:

HB: By the way, how old are you?

You: Guess.

HB: um like 23.

You: Good guess, exactly

 

[Who Dares Win]

Thanks Mike you're giving really usefull feedbacks just like you did in my last thread, please elaborate some more about the club game, better have the battalion ready

One thing im keeping in mind is that the darkness of the club could help her to be un noticed therefore more open (also thx to alchool) while at the cafè no alchool and high lights...yet I would like to do things slower.

What is your opinion about doing a double date where I can bring a friend or even a couple(m-f)?

 

[Iceberg]

Thanks Mike you're giving really usefull feedbacks just like you did in my last thread, please elaborate some more about the club game, better have the battalion ready

One thing im keeping in mind is that the darkness of the club could help her to be un noticed therefore more open (also thx to alchool) while at the cafè no alchool and high lights...yet I would like to do things slower.

What is your opinion about doing a double date where I can bring a friend or even a couple(m-f)?

I don't see how that helps you at all.

Double dates are for old married couples. Not two young people who haven't even kissed yet.

Take her out one-on-one. And try to avoid group dates or double dates with women you haven't sexed yet.

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree with Iceberg. Double dates are not good for chicks you are trying to b@ng. They are ok for couples in long term relationships. Go one on one.


Mikes Club Escalation:

1. Grind her back side on the dancefloor like everybody else.

2. Run your hands down her sides only.

3. Then let your hands brush just the sides of her boobs while you run down her sides.

4. Every so often, brush the front of her boobs while sliding your hands down her sides.

5. Brush the hair off the back of her neck and kiss the back of her neck.

6. A bit later, spin her around and try to grind face to face.

7. With good eye contact, brush hair aside and go for makeout.

If you are trying to pull, keep making out to a minimum. If you just want play in the club, then do what you want.

Anyway that's more than enough info. We're getting way ahead of ourselves.

 

[exile663dfx]

I don't see how that helps you at all.

Double dates are for old married couples. Not two young people who haven't even kissed yet.

Take her out one-on-one. And try to avoid group dates or double dates with women you haven't sexed yet.

Agreed double dates = not a good first date. And dude you're thinking way too much which is going to be your downfall at the end. Let me tell you something "cool guys". Coffee date, club date, park date, your house date, the fvcking high mile club date, IT DOES NOT MATTER what/where the date is. It's how interested she is in YOU, and how she thinks the date would be interesting. All women are >different< and want different things, some want a classy coffee date, some want the club scene, some just want to relax at your house, it depends on a woman. How do you know which one or what she likes? You should have found this out the first time you EVER talked to her (her interest). If not, do something "cool" ppfft.

Stay Alpha.

 

[bigneil]

28 and 19 is a magical combination. Women are their prettiest at 19 (on average). They are still unjaded at that age, yet womanly and often showing maternal instinct. Meanwhile, men at 28 are in their prime in terms of strength to experience ratio (on average, see sports statistics). They have had time to establish their career. There can be no greater physical attraction than a man who is 28 and a woman who is 19.

But as many have noted, group dates are the fast track to the friend zone. She is bringing a chaperone.

 

[Mike32ct]

Bigneil:

Agreed. I'm just saying to test her to see what her PERCEPTION of his age is. If she correctly guessed his age about 28, then by all means go with that. But if she is under the impression that he is closer to her age, he needs to go with that to avoid being blown out. It's ok to adjust her guess by a year if you like, but I keep it really close.

OP:

But anyway, don't get TOO hung up on the type of date. I know you really want the club, but see what kind of date she agrees too. Some venues are better than others, but there is a way to game in any of them. You aren't ASKING her what she WANTS per se, you are making a confident PROPOSAL. She can accept, decline, or counter-offer. It's like a salesman suggesting a product they think will meet the customer's needs. But the customer has to give the final ok.

"Hey let's check out Club XYZ on Friday at 9 pm."

or

"Hey I wanna see that new movie/film such and such. Let's due Thursday at 8pm."

or whatever

28 and 19 is a magical combination. Women are their prettiest at 19 (on average). They are still unjaded at that age, yet womanly and often showing maternal instinct. Meanwhile, men at 28 are in their prime in terms of strength to experience ratio (on average, see sports statistics). They have had time to establish their career. There can be no greater physical attraction than a man who is 28 and a woman who is 19.

But as many have noted, group dates are the fast track to the friend zone. She is bringing a chaperone.