"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Clubs not for the weak or the timid

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Why don't you guys just go to the club to have a good time and a drink with your boys? This is always my primary goal (with women being secondary) when I go out and I've met with fantatic success.

It's like a lot of the guys posting on here about "Oh I can't find a girlfriend and I'm looking everwhere and trying everything!" That's your problem to begin with. You're out looking for women getting nervous, trying stupid stuff, and striking out. The bottom line is the club is all about having a good time and enjoying yourself. Everytime I go to a club I go with two or three goodfriends we drink we laugh we're highengery we have a great time. Usually girls pick up on this because believe it or not they're there for the same reasons and finally they met some guys who aren't there trying to scam on them and run their obviously weak game and cheesy lines. These are guys who are just here to party so they want to talk to them! As a result of this, we get girls looking at us as we walk through the club in party mode and they either approach us or we them but the connection was already made regardless.

With this mindset the absolute WORST that can happen to you is you got dressed really nice and classy with your friends, you went out and you partied like rockstars and saw some short skirts. Sure you're not gonna go home with something nice everytime but at least you're enjoying life.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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PRMoon said:
Why don't you guys just go to the club to have a good time and a drink with your boys? This is always my primary goal (with women being secondary) when I go out and I've met with fantatic success.

It's like a lot of the guys posting on here about "Oh I can't find a girlfriend and I'm looking everwhere and trying everything!" That's your problem to begin with. You're out looking for women getting nervous, trying stupid stuff, and striking out. The bottom line is the club is all about having a good time and enjoying yourself. Everytime I go to a club I go with two or three goodfriends we drink we laugh we're highengery we have a great time. Usually girls pick up on this because believe it or not they're there for the same reasons and finally they met some guys who aren't there trying to scam on them and run their obviously weak game and cheesy lines. These are guys who are just here to party so they want to talk to them! As a result of this, we get girls looking at us as we walk through the club in party mode and they either approach us or we them but the connection was already made regardless.

With this mindset the absolute WORST that can happen to you is you got dressed really nice and classy with your friends, you went out and you partied like rockstars and saw some short skirts. Sure you're not gonna go home with something nice everytime but at least you're enjoying life.

thats exactly what I said earlier in this post :yes:

Quoted For Truth
 

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Dance Clubs are basically designed to seperate you from your money.

The upscale "Lounge" type places are far better for PU
 

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Derek Flint said:
Dance Clubs are basically designed to seperate you from your money.

The upscale "Lounge" type places are far better for PU
The "Ultra Lounges" where I am are pretty much scaled down clubs where dancing is not permitted or restricted to a small area. The drinks are equally expencive and the table cost is actually higher.

They don't build lounges, clubs or premium bars without the sole intent of you spending bank.

You just have to have solid game in every situation and know how to work the scene. My advantage over many people is that I'm industry so I'm fighting the battle from the inside and I've got support. But before I got to that level, I just stick with the thought of "I'm here to have a good time" in my head all the time.
 

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I don't really know how to work the whole night club thing. I can't talk dance well though I try, as in I dont sit down and watch.

Where I live its a town/city with a population of 800 000 people not much when you think about it.. There are like 4 or 5 dance night clubs and a few are kind of lounges. The rest are pubs....

But I really wonder if I try gaming 10 chicks in one night... one will surely work... haha

But honestly when I go with my main boys to the club without picking up I have a blast. So its not all about the puzzz

Ps 16 is legal my friends to root. So no calling me pedo. Under 18's is an option I might go the next one...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Cod3r said:
Don't hate the color, hate the game


-Cod3r
Don't hate the game, hate yourself if you still haven't learned how to play! :p
 

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... I felt like I had just talked to the Buddha and had a deep religious experience.
Nah, that was just the ammonia fumes from the urinal cakes. :p
 

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THE_ADDMAN said:
thats exactly what I said earlier in this post :yes:

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Seconded...:wave:
 

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PRMoon said:
The "Ultra Lounges" where I am are pretty much scaled down clubs where dancing is not permitted or restricted to a small area. The drinks are equally expencive and the table cost is actually higher.

They don't build lounges, clubs or premium bars without the sole intent of you spending bank.

You just have to have solid game in every situation and know how to work the scene. My advantage over many people is that I'm industry so I'm fighting the battle from the inside and I've got support. But before I got to that level, I just stick with the thought of "I'm here to have a good time" in my head all the time.
I've done both for years, and the "Lounge" type places are better than the Dance Clubs for PU

I've wrote a long post about this a while back and posted it in another thread.

Yes, I can operate in both, but the Lounge type of place yields better results.
 

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Don't hate the color, hate the game
Who said I was hating? Just stating.

Look, it's obvious Blacks and non-Blacks have 2 different experiences in clubs:

Non-Black guy: Man, girls are BYCHY kawkteases in clubs! If I make any moves on them, they turn their noses up and actually walk out of the club!

Black guy: Man, I LOOOVEE clubs! Girls are soooo easy there! I just walk up to them and they basically mount me!

See what's going on here? Same place...same girls...the difference is in YOUR skin color. If you don't think American girls are COLORSTRUCK and racially stereotype, you are one NAIVE SOB! Don't fool yourself into thinking you are succeeding or failing just due to game. Remember, just watch their walk, not talk...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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wayword said:
Who said I was hating? Just stating.

Look, it's obvious Blacks and non-Blacks have 2 different experiences in clubs:

Non-Black guy: Man, girls are BYCHY kawkteases in clubs! If I make any moves on them, they turn their noses up and actually walk out of the club!

Black guy: Man, I LOOOVEE clubs! Girls are soooo easy there! I just walk up to them and they basically mount me!

See what's going on here? Same place...same girls...the difference is in YOUR skin color. If you don't think American girls are COLORSTRUCK and racially stereotype, you are one NAIVE SOB! Don't fool yourself into thinking you are succeeding or failing just due to game. Remember, just watch their walk, not talk...
Man, that would be a scary thought if I believed it.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Man, that would be a scary thought if I believed it.
Where the hell do these guys come up with this crap?! I have a caucasian friend who is a club master...and he doesn't even like to go! When ever I have a table or am going to meet someone who has a table, I'll bring him because he'll fish out a group of smokin hot girls and bring them over. What the hell does race have to do with picking up girls anyway? He's attractive and confident in what he's doing so he succeeds.
 

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Where the hell do these guys come up with this crap?! I have a caucasian friend who is a club master...and he doesn't even like to go! When ever I have a table or am going to meet someone who has a table, I'll bring him because he'll fish out a group of smokin hot girls and bring them over. What the hell does race have to do with picking up girls anyway? He's attractive and confident in what he's doing so he succeeds.
Hey, it's the life that they're living. Clubbing just doesn't work for them. Personally when I go to a club my objective isn't to just meet women, by default I meet a few just because they're there. I go to have a good time getting my groove on with them. Sometimes we exchange numbers to go out dancing again, even when I don't I still have a damn good time. :rock:
 

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The reason you don't believe it, is because it's not true.
First the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause and now this; I don't know what to believe anymore.... :(
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
First the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause and now this; I don't know what to believe anymore.... :(

yup, Life is just one big let-down.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Look, it's obvious Blacks and non-Blacks have 2 different experiences in clubs:

Non-Black guy: Man, girls are BYCHY kawkteases in clubs! If I make any moves on them, they turn their noses up and actually walk out of the club!

Black guy: Man, I LOOOVEE clubs! Girls are soooo easy there! I just walk up to them and they basically mount me!

See what's going on here? Same place...same girls...the difference is in YOUR skin color. If you don't think American girls are COLORSTRUCK and racially stereotype, you are one NAIVE SOB! Don't fool yourself into thinking you are succeeding or failing just due to game. Remember, just watch their walk, not talk...
You are beyond help my friend.... lol

I think you pull these thoughts out of your arse. I have known white and hispanic guys who pimp clubs at a master level, and know plenty of black guys that can't get ANYTHING outta the club....

Look at one of the previous posters, he's black and states himself he can't get anywhere in clubs, he approaches and they laugh and go dance with their friends, now how does that hold up against your theory ?? Is it because he's too dark, maybe too short ?? Too light maybe ?? No afro ?? lol


It's all about game bro... maybe u should get some, i hear its on sale at walmart until the 22nd



-Cod3r
 

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Cod3r said:
...It's all about game bro... maybe u should get some, i hear its on sale at walmart until the 22nd...
Hey, I've got an extra 10% off coupon if anyone wants it!!!! :D
 
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