Clubs, AFC's, the pedestalization of women

[skinnyguy]

It's Friday night and you're pregaming with your AFC's. You make a comment like "I'm going to own it tonight". Someone says "Don't worry about me if I don't make it back with you guys...I will be with a hottie".

You roll up to the club with your fellow AFC's and you are impressed by the selection. The women are wearing tight dresses and high heels. You immediately go to the bar to get some drinks so that you can feel buzzed enough to talk to that hot girl you're checking out. Once you're finally buzzed, you go over there and start talking to her. After a few words it is clear that she's not interested and goes back to talking to her girlfriends. You come back to the bar and tell your AFC's that she was a lesbian.

Repeat 40 - 50 times, and BAM - you have just pedestalized women. You know that women have high social value because they are the choosers. You treat them like they are gold and every time you go up to them, you give them more power while simultaneously lowering your own status.

Now, before PHM responds to this post with red and bold font saying that this is "beta faggot sh!t", please understand that I do sympathize with you guys out there who have done this. I've done this plenty times. The reasons are simple - you're initially not successful with women so you go to great lengths to get one. You come home feeling bad about yourself, but then you go out the next weekend and do it again, in hopes that you'll be able to get laid.

In order to break this cycle, you must first realize that approaching women at clubs is going to reduce your confidence and self-worth. Even if you get one to talk to you, it is not worth the dozens who turn you down. The only time I'm ever going to a club is if I'm getting bottle service with a big group of friends, because it establishes my status. Simply going with one or two guys is going to creep women out, unless of course you are Brad Pitt.

 

[zinc4]

BS..if you look good they will approach you...and it doesn't have to be Brad Pitt status...happened to my little brother multiple times the other night in a club in Hollywood.....and it was just me and him...you don't look good enough and your game isn't good enough to compensate..

 

[doctorj]

^ BS, you just have to look good (looking good is diff. from being good looking) and have enough game to makeout with chicks in clubs. Now that I've been working out and was able to fit into better looking clothes, not only my attractiveness increased but my confidence did as well. If some bisch rejects you, just move on to the next. I even made out with a girl that night who was with her bf, she kept saying her bf could see us but I just leaned in to kiss her and was met with no resistance.

 

[BeDJ]

Let me flip this and give you a sample of my program:

BDJ's Very Motivational Negative Reversal Alpha Confidently Awesome Approach

Remember the last time you got rejected? Doesn't it leave mark on your ego? Everyone in the world FEARS rejection. So you are going to wait around and have a women RISK her self-esteem and potentially get rejected by you? It's not happening, women are creatures that have all the self-validity they need, all that orbiter attention, all that creeper attention, all that hubba hubba attention. Why the fvck would they risk getting rejected and feeling like sh!t? That's just stupid.

As men, we understand that the world is not simply handed to us on a silver platter. If you want that sh!t go get a sex change. I don't know about you, but I'd rather thrust a pvssy than a raging boner. We are the hunters, we are the ones that pick and choose our targets. Women do not have that luxury because they are pvssies. They want the world to be handed to them, so be it. They get stuck with a Napolean Dynamite looking dude that won't go away. Sucks to be them!

You aren't pedestalizing women when you approach them, you are doing the exact opposite. You don't admire their looks or t!ts, you approach them to let them know, under that fitted dress and Hannah Montana hair extensions, we both sit down to take a sh!t. But, I'm better than you because I can piss while standing. Every approach you make is letting women know, you aren't a special cupcake, snowflake, you're just like everyone here. Your only potential is how you face and t!ts are formed. My potential is making a sh!t ton of cash, going to the gym, playing xbox and sh!t - not worrying about my deteriorating looks and when my next period is coming. My name is BDJ and I'm hitting on you.

 

[NewJack]

I think BeDJ has outlined the mindset you want to have when approaching. Its mildly crazy and kinda stupid, but it works really well. Sounds like he believes it too, which is awesome.

My mindset isn't that same way, but echoes your original post. Going up to women because you like how they look is, on some level, demeaning. Why? Because unless you really are just being friendly, like you would with anyone, your heart and soul don't go with you into the approach. You see, your heart and soul are much more tentative, pensive things... they sit back. They want things like connection and friendship.

When you swing up on an approach, its because you're DTF. Like a penis that has come loose from the human being it was attached to, and is now a cruise missile of PUA awesomeness, you set eyes on a girl because of her looks. Thus you are fragmented, you really are less than a man. Even though guys will tell you that at that moment you are most manly: really, in that moment you have laid aside your higher qualities and higher nature in the pursuit of stray bangs. The likelihood skyrockets that you will talk about things that are meaningless to you, hang out with people you dont really like, and just generally misrepresent who and what you are in pursuit of the lady-girls.

We can celebrate this moment, we can theoretically postulate that it is responsible for the generation of the human race (But did Adam really *cold approach* Eve? I think it was more Social Circle Game that has given birth to us as humans), but we can never make up for the fact that our heart and head have solemnly stepped into the background, trying to let you get your freak on.

So yeah, it feels sh1tty because it is sh1tty.

 

[NewJack]

By the way skinnyguy, thank you for creating this sentence:

It's Friday night and you're pregaming with your AFC's

man oh man, lol. Just pregaming with ma AFCs ova here!