"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Clubbing in the 70s/80s vs. Now

spinaroonie

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Interesting blog post about the male-female relations in current times:

http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-evidence-do-you-see-for-greater.html

At house parties or in dance clubs and bars, girls don't leave their friends alone. If they get the sense that one of their friends wants to slip away and pair up with a boy, whether for something light or heavy, they become **** blocks -- a phrase that did not exist before because there was rarely such a thing. They steal the friend back, or sometimes just walk off as a group, knowing that the girl (being a girl) cannot take being stranded by her clique and will fall in line behind them. In mixed-sex times, they would've left her alone, and if not, she would've told them to mind their own business, get a life of their own, etc.
Excellent point. This is likely THE most maddening thing about the bar & club scene these days - isolating the girl from her herd. It doesn't matter if you have a good connection with your girl - to get a girl you have to win over ALL her friends; if one of the friends disapproves, she ain't getting alone with you.

I'm Gen Y so this is standard girl behaviour. But this makes me wonder - were girl always like this? Was it like this in the 60s/70s/80s? I see clubbing scenes from movies of that era, and everyone looks to be relaxed, dancing and having a good time - girls And guys dancing together. It looks like another world from the tense environment of today's dance floors, where GIRLS are dancing in tight circles with other girls, closed off from the rest of the club, and GUYS are leering from the sidelines.

Were one-night stands easier to get in the era of free love? What caused the change? I want to here from the older folks here.

Did our fathers have to go through this shvt? I imagine anyone 40+ would find Game and PUA - replete with its acronyms, lexicon, routines and evolved tactics to deal with ****blocks and cope with today's environment - rather bizarre and alien. What happened to just "Hi, I'm Joe. Want to dance?"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Chromeo

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gonna go out on a limb and say that thats because this generation has a lot of men raised by their mothers?

Or the fact that this generation has been taught to be so timid and cautious, i.e., you must go to college, you must have safe sex, you must play it safe, the economy is bad, save your money, dont be sexual with women, be nice ect...
 

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Chromeo said:
gonna go out on a limb and say that thats because this generation has a lot of men raised by their mothers?

Or the fact that this generation has been taught to be so timid and cautious, i.e., you must go to college, you must have safe sex, you must play it safe, the economy is bad, save your money, dont be sexual with women, be nice ect...
Huh? Superdads dominate America! Every boy in most countries has been raised by Momma. Many never leave Momma. In most cultures Mothers are not *****s like in America. They don't kick you out at 18! You live at home until you get married then you take Momma with you! That is the way most of the world lives in 2010.

In America you like them old and trampy. You call them milfs and cougars. You think French and Italian guys go after that? Are you crazy? They are perverts to you guys. Why? Because they don't have Mommy issues. They don't need an older woman. You boys never have had a good mother.
 

Chromeo

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Thats kinda what im saying. American mothers dont act like the mothers of other places around the world.

They can be *****es and teach you that you should deal with / tolerate those actions....
 
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