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Saw a girl I knew from probation classes
Was with her "friend", completely disregarded him, she blew him off for me. He walked away
She talked like crazy about her probation
She was all over all me
Kissed her on the cheek, she smiled
Talked more
She caught me looking at her boobs
He friend said he had to go, she said by, i kissed her one more time
She left



IMO what I did wrong --I shouldn't of kissed her so much. And I should of told her to stay with me at the club then take her home from there.


My problem was the transition, I let her talk bc she wouldn't shut up. But I wanted to go info for the lip kiss, didnt know when. I should of just said **** it and did it.
 

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What are you trippin about? You did good. I woulda ran with the boob thing for a half second just to get a little more sexual. Sometimes kissing her in the context of the situation isn't always a good thing.

You seem to have wanted a quick pull. With that, you need to escalate slowly physically and emotionally. Hand touching and subtle arm rubbing. Then hugs and pulling her in to lean on you, then finally going for the kiss. You can't just jump straight to the kiss. It would be out of context from the situation. Buy also remember to escalate emotionally as well, which you seem to get pretty well from the small amount of info you gave.

Try again with subtle physical moves and you'll be fine.
 

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What are you trippin about? You did good. I woulda ran with the boob thing for a half second just to get a little more sexual. Sometimes kissing her in the context of the situation isn't always a good thing.

You seem to have wanted a quick pull. With that, you need to escalate slowly physically and emotionally. Hand touching and subtle arm rubbing. Then hugs and pulling her in to lean on you, then finally going for the kiss. You can't just jump straight to the kiss. It would be out of context from the situation. Buy also remember to escalate emotionally as well, which you seem to get pretty well from the small amount of info you gave.

Try again with subtle physical moves and you'll be fine.
I was donig kino the whole time with her. Touching her arm and back. I still feel like i could of escalated more though. And oh yea I wanted a quick pull. Got the house to my self, gotta use it to my advantage. ha ha
 

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Crissco said:
Saw a girl I knew from probation classes
Was with her "friend", completely disregarded him, she blew him off for me. He walked away
She talked like crazy about her probation
She was all over all me
Kissed her on the cheek, she smiled
Talked more
She caught me looking at her boobs
He friend said he had to go, she said by, i kissed her one more time
She left



IMO what I did wrong --I shouldn't of kissed her so much. And I should of told her to stay with me at the club then take her home from there.


My problem was the transition, I let her talk bc she wouldn't shut up. But I wanted to go info for the lip kiss, didnt know when. I should of just said **** it and did it.
Ok, so this girl was there with her "friend".

She came over to you to stir up a bit of jealousy with him, and he handled it like a pro by walking away and not being concerned.

And then you failed to escalate the kino to a sufficient extent.

And then her "friend" came back, and as soon as he said he was going, she left as well, probably to go home for some hard shagging.

Did I get it correct?
 

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Ok, so this girl was there with her "friend".

She came over to you to stir up a bit of jealousy with him, and he handled it like a pro by walking away and not being concerned.

And then you failed to escalate the kino to a sufficient extent.

And then her "friend" came back, and as soon as he said he was going, she left as well, probably to go home for some hard shagging.

Did I get it correct?
I texted her to see what she was doing. She was at the same club, I walked up to her.
Her friend got jealous, I could see it in his face. He walked away.

Thanks for the advice as*shole
 

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Crissco said:
I texted her to see what she was doing. She was at the same club, I walked up to her.
Her friend got jealous, I could see it in his face. He walked away.

Thanks for the advice as*shole
As*sholes get laid and nice guys get played.

Get a grip mate! I'm trying to help you.

To me, there were 2 possibilities:

*1) She was into you, but you didn't make her feel enough attraction for you / escalate enough

I think she did feel some attraction for you, but maybe it was:


* 2) She was using you for an attention / ego boost.
Girls need attention even more than guys need s*x.


Either way, the best way to cut thtrough the crap that girls say is to ignore what they say and focus on their actions. Did she go along with the kiss?

If she "was all over you", but then walked away as soon as the other guy came back, then what does that say?

Crissco said:
My problem was the transition, I let her talk bc she wouldn't shut up. But I wanted to go info for the lip kiss, didnt know when. I should of just said **** it and did it.
Yes, that would have been the best way to go.

The only way to cut through the cr*p often is to take the chance and see how she responds.
 

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As*sholes get laid and nice guys get played.

Get a grip mate! I'm trying to help you.

To me, there were 2 possibilities:

*1) She was into you, but you didn't make her feel enough attraction for you / escalate enough

I think she did feel some attraction for you, but maybe it was:


* 2) She was using you for an attention / ego boost.
Girls need attention even more than guys need s*x.


Either way, the best way to cut thtrough the crap that girls say is to ignore what they say and focus on their actions. Did she go along with the kiss?

If she "was all over you", but then walked away as soon as the other guy came back, then what does that say?



Yes, that would have been the best way to go.

The only way to cut through the cr*p often is to take the chance and see how she responds.
We've known eachother for a while from the class..I was always making her and everyone in the class laugh, I would cut her off mid sentence, and go "oh were u talking" haha then continue to talk.

I see what ur saying bro. When I kissed her, she liked it, had a big smile on her face. I think it was I didnt create enough attraction, simple as that.

I should of just fu*kin told her to stay with me, and if she didnt, ide know the answer to my question
 

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not bad like your last one. Kiss hello and kiss goodbye. That's fine for a club situation. I wouldn't kiss hello on a date though.
 

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not bad like your last one. Kiss hello and kiss goodbye. That's fine for a club situation. I wouldn't kiss hello on a date though.
Why? I always do, shows you got balls, always worked fine for me.
 

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Not saying it doesn't but didn't you do this in your last FR and made the situation awkward with the girl feeling used.

Anyway let me know if you're down for daygame. saw your post in wingman forum.
 

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I did it at the end of the date with the other girl. Every time I kiss a girl when i first see her it always makes her feel warm and she always smile.


What part of NYC you from bro?
 

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I'm new here man. I actually live in JerseyCity but i work in Manhattan flatiron district/chelsea i think.

takes me 20 minutes to get into manhattan.

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Crissco said:
Saw a girl I knew from probation classes
Was with her "friend", completely disregarded him, she blew him off for me. He walked away
She talked like crazy about her probation
She was all over all me
Kissed her on the cheek, she smiled
Talked more
She caught me looking at her boobs
He friend said he had to go, she said by, i kissed her one more time
She left



IMO what I did wrong --I shouldn't of kissed her so much. And I should of told her to stay with me at the club then take her home from there.


My problem was the transition, I let her talk bc she wouldn't shut up. But I wanted to go info for the lip kiss, didnt know when. I should of just said **** it and did it.
nope kisses were good, but you should have asked her to stay. girls see longer term, she must be like this guy is cute let's see what will happen next time i see him or excpect you to add her of facebook idk.
she couldn't take herself the decision to stay when youre in class with her, she knew she will see you again and maybe didn't want to seem too frward.


cliff:
-kisses= good
- should have asked to stay.
 

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nope kisses were good, but you should have asked her to stay. girls see longer term, she must be like this guy is cute let's see what will happen next time i see him or excpect you to add her of facebook idk.
she couldn't take herself the decision to stay when youre in class with her, she knew she will see you again and maybe didn't want to seem too frward.


cliff:
-kisses= good
- should have asked to stay.
Already got her on facebook, and like I said..and i also said I HAD class with her. I stopped that class a while ago.
 

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Crissco said:
Already got her on facebook, and like I said..and i also said I HAD class with her. I stopped that class a while ago.
ohh be patient im French, my understanding of english sucks approaching midnight. well what i said still stands. Contact her through fb ask her out, unless she's prolly expcting it. ince she ditched the other guy and since you were making her kisses :$



edit: well actually whithout knowing what probation class is ( like i don't) it wasnt obvious you werent in that class anymore
 

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