Club/Bar Game

[Fumbduck]

I have a solid game outside of bars and nightclubs. I'm confident talking to girls at a supermarket, bookstore, on the street, at the mall, pretty much in everyday life. Get the number, hang out, good deal... I'm looking for quality women, not dirty slvts for an ONS.

At bars/clubs with loud music, lot of girls in groups I feel out of my element.

How can you have a conversation with a girl? You can't hear sh!t.
I'm not down with the random bump and grind, just seems creepy to me.

Maybe i'm just old fashioned and need to loosen up when I go to a bar. I can talk to girls at bars, but it's not as comfortable as daytime approaches. How do you guys initially approach after you make eye contact and assume she's interested in you?

 

[Tiguere]

Go to youtube and search for "keys to the vip"

 

[PDubb75]

I think bar/club game is a bit odd, at least when compared to the other locations you mentioned. I also want to state first off that I am new both to this site, and the dating scene (recent 6 year LTR).

I personally think it is easier to open in a club. I have more confidence going up to a girl on the dance floor than at the supermarket. Women are looking for a good time at bars and clubs. You know that much already, or else they wouldn't be there. The key is just becoming part of that good time. If she's dancing, dance with her. If shes talking and laughing with a group of friends, use a good group opener and focus on singling her out after a bit.

HOWEVER... I feel it is more difficult to close in these situations. Not only may this person be getting guys from all angles asking her out, but it seems sometimes they simply want to go out and have fun without worrying about finding a guy. I think it requires a lot more work.

The other thing about clubs especially... conversations don't work. It's not attractive or effective screaming over the noise. Plus, chances are, you are taking the woman away from what she came there wanting to do. I stay away from long convo in clubs, and try to keep it real short before dancing with them, or moving to some other people.

I just try to focus on keeping it light-hearted, starting with kino immediately, and throwing some negs out. See where it goes from there..

 

[Masculinity]

I have the same problem, but instead of having good day game I have good night game.

 

[synergy1]

agreed on most counts regarding conversation. You have to be quick enough to isolate and bring them to a part of the venue where conversation is possible. Try and go for whatever close you feel would work, number, or more. I find its easier to get sex closes if you are out with a group of friends, and they bring girls along. Actually, this is how most of my work has been done for a while.

If you are in a town without covers, I suggest learning when to bounce from a venue. Lingering is bad. If you get a vibe from a girl, stick around. If you don't, talk to a few and if that doesn't work, just leave. I don't go to more than 2 venues a night and won't go to more than 1 if there is a cover ( im unemployed, so buying drinks doesn't even happen often when im out!) .

Play it smart, but don't expect too much. Some nights are good, some nights are bad.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Its a sad paradox how the most social places - bars and clubs - can be the most difficult for meeting and befriending a girl. At these places girls have all the power and they know it. On top of that the vast majority of the girls there are low quality, attention wh0res, only want to dance, or are waiting for a Channing Tatum clone, or some perverse combination of all 4 (franken*****).

Even if you meet a girl there are a dozen obstacles between getting her from the bar/club to your place. You can get her # but as we all know a girl's interest level can plummet by the next day due to lack of alcohol and the limit placed on your seduction skills by the several miles now separating you two.

Sadly day-game can be just as brutal since it's a far less natural social setting than clubs and bars. However, if you can cold-approach a girl and make a smooth transition into a conversation without making it seem like you are a "creeper" (sad how girls see so many guys they don't know that try to talk to them as creepers), then you can have some success. Thats just my opinion and main goal.

The problems with bars/clubs is a common topic on this site. The solution a lot of guys suggest - and i agree with - is to just go to bars/clubs with some friends only looking to have a good time and make new friends. Outside of bars/clubs is where you should focus on meeting women, but to do this you need to have plenty of inner game and be very PROACTIVE.

Where exactly to meet girls outside of clubs/bars is something I haven't figured out yet but social circles are usually a good place to start.

 

[Blusher]

In bars and clubs, be upbeat and positive. Having fun is presumably the fun of most people in such venues, yet many seem bored to tears. If you're having a good time, you'll be giving them permission to have fun too. Hence, you are perceived as added value.

initiate quick interactions starting with a funny comment, light compliment followed by playful disqualification.

Move on rapidly to introductions.

Memorize her name.

Leave on your own terms (that way you're not a leech and you leave her wanting more)

repeat with different groups of girls.

At this point, you can walk through the dancefloor and some girls will re-engage or simply smile at you to aknowledge your presence. Remembering their names at this point facilitates things in a dramatic way.

As you reinitiate the convo, isolate after a couple of minutes so you can hear better. There's always a slightly quieter place in a club where you can talk. Otherwise, too bad, that means you'll have to talk to each other's ears... come to think of... not so bad right? You're practically in an intimate pre-k close position

try it. see how it works for you.

I get consistent results everytime with this method.

 

[Blusher]

You can get her # but as we all know a girl's interest level can plummet by the next day due to lack of alcohol and the limit placed on your seduction skills by the several miles now separating you two.

If you can cold-approach a girl and make a smooth transition into a conversation without making it seem like you are a "creeper" (sad how girls see so many guys they don't know that try to talk to them as creepers), then you can have some success. Thats just my opinion and main goal.

Social circles are usually a good place to start.

No smooth transition needed. It should be smooth from the get-go. Actually, get rid of the idea of 'cold approach' ... It's a toxic image to have in mind. Instead, talk to her as if you already knew her. Familiarity breeds liking.

Btw women have very valid reasons to be cautious and avoid creepers. Unfortunately for most guys with limited social skills (a majority on this site) they fall right in this category. Ironically, they then feel rejected and develop some frustration and resentment towards women. This in turn becomes appearant in their behaviour and it creeps women out... rightfully so.

Good luck hiding it.

I dont agree about social circles. I mean how many women of your CLOSE social cirlce are you going to sleep with before it becomes a minefield and you start losing friends?