Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Closing/Transitioning

phooey73

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I'm going on 25, have had two girlfriends and have only ever hooked up with those two girls.

I think I am good at flirting and being playful. I think I kino well (though could be more sexual about it). I would say that both of my previous girlfriends initiated our relationships, though I know for a fact one of them thinks I did.

My question is how to move from flirtation to a relationship/lay. This site is big on telling guys that they should be the prize and not be desperate around girls, etc., which is true, but can be overdone by being too aloof and waiting for the very unlikely event that the chick steps up. Ultimately, at some point, the guy has to make the move. My situation is one where I already know the girl, so it's not just about asking for her number and she already knows it's because I'm interested sexually. Let's say this is someone I work with and we talk already, maybe flirt (who knows for sure).

So, flame if you want about my low numbers, but how do you guys close/transition in general from fun flirtation to something more, and, in particular, how would you close in my situation?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Poonani Maker

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phooey73 said:
I'm going on 25, have had two girlfriends and have only ever hooked up with those two girls.

I think I am good at flirting and being playful. I think I kino well (though could be more sexual about it). I would say that both of my previous girlfriends initiated our relationships, though I know for a fact one of them thinks I did.

My question is how to move from flirtation to a relationship/lay. This site is big on telling guys that they should be the prize and not be desperate around girls, etc., which is true, but can be overdone by being too aloof and waiting for the very unlikely event that the chick steps up. Ultimately, at some point, the guy has to make the move. My situation is one where I already know the girl, so it's not just about asking for her number and she already knows it's because I'm interested sexually. Let's say this is someone I work with and we talk already, maybe flirt (who knows for sure).

Women used to have to keep their mouths Shut!

So, flame if you want about my low numbers, but how do you guys close/transition in general from fun flirtation to something more, and, in particular, how would you close in my situation?
Basically, it's about eradicating Fear. You must let go of your Fear of going on the offensive in your pursuit of the woman. Being the prize might not be your style. It's my style. That's because I have clout to back up my prizeness. Women can See my prizeability. They don't have to look no further than me and first impressions. Other guys, guys who are not open, they've got to Dig.

I meet a lot of women in my job, and sometimes they're bending over and I see that beautiful crack they want me to see emerge from their bluejeans - instant prizeability on their part and turns me on like a light Quick!

Well, my fear sometimes is going on the offensive in pursuit of one of these gals, only to have them turn on me when the relationship goes sour and trying to get me fired from my job. This is a Big fear for most smart guys, because women will DO this. They'll lie about you, make complaints about you ALL the time (they're social creatures, they use 20,000 words a day constantly with that cellphone attached to their ear on the toilet you name it the cellphone is there, we only 8,000). I've NEVER EVER EVER EVER had a complaint from a male in my job. That speaks volumes.
 

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Make the move

I agree that eradicating your fear of taking things with her further sexually is your biggest sticking point. It is okay to be a sexual guy as long as you're not a horny guy. A sexual guy knows about sexuality but is not needy for it. For example saying something like "you can stay at my place, but don't get any ideas because I've got to get up early".

Physical escalation generally happens in steps. Playful kino is great in the beginning, but remember to progress to hold her hand and then taking it further. Don't just wait until the very end of the date and then go in for the kiss.

Once you are getting physical remember 2 steps forward, 1 step back. When you are making the moves and taking it further with her, but then go back to just kissing her for a few seconds and not just rushing right through it, the created anticipation will fuel everything more.
 
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