"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hi
As a newbie i only started digging thru few gurus stuff and this forum trying to create my style.

Im not good at reading IOIs and dont wanna waste time chasing lost causes, prefer switching to new targets.

Sure, she accepted my first date, but i want to continue only if shes more interested than before, dont want to become friend but i wont be ready for kiss test or much KINO(surely not for few first dates).
I have an idea and could use some opinion/pointers.

What about saying at the end : "if U want to repeat this give me a call, if not then thx & goodbye"
What about pointing to my cheek with "kiss" before saying it? (or is it too STYLE'a)

thx in advance :)
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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my question is - does telling her (after walking her home) "if U want to repeat this give me a call, if not then thx & goodbye" will be a good idea - i dont want to be too aggressive, just sending ball onto her side of court

btw.i try to do date rather casual, not much KINO except for a shoulder(not much player style, but im not there yet)
 

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JJcha said:
my question is - does telling her (after walking her home) "if U want to repeat this give me a call, if not then thx & goodbye" will be a good idea - i dont want to be too aggressive, just sending ball onto her side of court

btw.i try to do date rather casual, not much KINO except for a shoulder(not much player style, but im not there yet)
FAIL. DO NOT TELL HER THAT CRAP. PERIOD. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Kiss her, say talk to you later, leave. Call her a few days later (call, don't text for ****s sake), ask her out again. Done.

Edit: And do kino. Otherwise you'll most likely end up in the friend's zone. Just saying.
 
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