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closing deals at bars/clubs

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When I'm out at the bar/club I usually run into lots of girls who I've met or know well from school. I'll admit this gives me an instant easy way to start conversations... I don't have a problem approaching anymore as I once did when I was younger. Whether or not I know a girl doesn't matter anymore. But I haven't recently had many slamming successes "closing deals." And by that I mean, I will talk to a girl or two throughout the night, but as the night draws on... I'll either look around and notice she is gone, or she'll suddenly announce that she is going home with her roomate or friend... etc. Obviously this has got to stop. I want to bring my game up to the next level and be able to bring the girls that I talk to at the bar home.

Can someone provide essential tips on how to orchestrate a successful night out with a happy ending? i feel that I've surmounted half the battle by lining many girls up... but I can't seem to make the last essential move.

Also, I'll admit, the AFC in me has a small fear of being that clingy creepy guy that we all see in the bars. Who hangs on girls and then tries to tag along home with them only to be batted away mercilessly.

Anytime I've been successful with a girl, or have seen my friends succeed with girls, its always seemed like a "mistake" or it is very smooth. What can be said or what is the general persona that should be taken for a DJ to take girls home with him?
 

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I suggest that instead of trying to go for the ONS right at the bar, you aim to get contact info. That way, you can call her later and meet on your own terms. This will fare much better for your chances at sex.

Read my tip about patience if you want to know exactly what to do about it. It is in the tips section.
 
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actually, I did read the post on patience. a good post, and I agree with it. but I was hoping that a few DJs would offer some insights on how to do speed seductions and actually hook up with a girl at the bar/club specifically in light of the fact that I've "set the table" for many of these girls (I go to medical school with many of them, I see many girls in class and study areas upwards of 3-8 hours per day).

People from my school tend to congregate in ceratin areas (as I'm sure happens in every college/school) and I find that I honestly know dozens of girls. I can strike up friendly or sometimes very detailed conversations. But by the end of the night, things never go my way. I'm not sure what can be done?
 
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