"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Classroom Glances

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We all give them. We all receive them. No one completely understands them. No one knows how to respond to them.

A very sweet and intelligent girl (who I don't know) and is my AP English class walked past me in the hall and shot me a smile, I automatically thought of everything I had read (I'm such a dork) and quickly smiled back.

My social skills, while not adept, are in tact and I realized a few errors instantly:

-My smile was late and to sudden (and went away just as suddenly since my smile was delayed I wiped it off my face to save face (har-har-har), and ended up looking like a moron)

-I instantly became rigid (I'm generally relaxed around people I know, this amped my nerves) and as everyone here knows that's terrible body language.

-I began walking more quickly (It's bad when they notice this. The Monday following a party I ran into a girl I had fooled around with and nearly started running...not my proudest moment. :down: )

So, back to the purpose of this thread, I'd like some clarification on some of the different type of glances and expressions girls shoot you with and how to react to them.

Staring down a girl only works in some situations (I'm not always lucky), smiling, if not returned because she looks away (shy ones) can be fairly akward, and there's always that hint of indecision where you're not certain if something's sitting on your head, they're spacing out, or are completely checking you out.

I've racked this sight pretty thoroughly for some insight on these minor (but absolutely fascinating) interactions that are, more often than not, the first hints of a relationship in which a guy either lands it big and progresses on to a friendly conversation, getting a phone number, going out, and moving from their or when you're automatically discarded by the eyes of the beholder for responding strangely to make them (in my case, female) uncomfortable.

Lets figure this out and come up with solutions for the many scenarios involving this fundamental beginning of any attraction.

Help me. :up:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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dude, silent seduction isnt really that easy unless u've actually studied david deangelo's body language teachings. for now i'd say dont try to re-invent the wheel, eithr study it or just work with straight-forward game
 

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I see body language, I understan it, but I am male!

Girls are ten times better at reading it than I am naturally! That means for every detail and calculation I make they are NINE steps ahead of me.

I don't want to be ahead of them (seduce them). I want to keep pace (not look like a ****en moron).
 

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dude, do u really think women hav this calculation system in their head telling them abt wat every single finger movement of urs means??
first of all, don't underestimate the gurus, bcoz if it wudn't wrk then they wudnt be gurus and second of all, its ur decision if u wana study it or not...dont try to critisize it if u havent studied it
 

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ganji reading body language takes practice. I've been blessed with the ability to read it and a 'flirtatious' personality. All I can say as to getting better is to practice reading it in everything and everyone like your mom, your friends, or even random people on the street.

Whenever you notice your nervous sensors going off just slow down your pace, clear your mind, and let it flow. I don't know exactly what she meant by the smile because I wasn't there but she definitely is friendly towards you if not interested in a relationship. Go ahead and talk to her.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Lord, no, they know it through instinct. Maybe I just read more than you but (as I understand) women understand body language and frequently test people on a subconscience level, and subconsciencely dismiss or accept you.

That bothers me. What if, you know, staring at me is a test? Why are girls so sadistic?
 

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dude, upto a certain extent women want u to send them atleast some kind of signs saying "i'm hot, available and im not a wussy"
 

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and I do that how...?

Note, a conversation can't be initiated because a lectures going on and the teacher's a total *****.
 

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and there's a body between us, so even in the down time I can't work through the rows and start up a conversation while standing at her desk (even if the teacher let it slide.)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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meet her after class dude, but honestly idk the exact answer to where u cud go n meet her. i wud suggest that u go up and talk to her rite b4 class n hold on the conversation until class ends in which case u can continue the conversation for abt 2 days and then pop the great question "Do u have email?" she says "yes" u say "here write it down" hand her a pencil n a paper n while she's writing it say "and write ur number down there too" i doubt that she'd resist n if she does then say "relax, im only gonna call u 9 times a day"
dont worry dude, u'll b fine but i can sure guarantee u that, that^ number close always works
 

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hey

Wow dude that was really long.:) Next time a chick smiles at you, smile back and decide if you want to go talk to her. I think most smiles are good so go up and talk to her if you want. cause I think shes saying come over and talk to me. Hey thats just my experience.:)
 

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LordGrin said:
meet her after class dude, but honestly idk the exact answer to where u cud go n meet her. i wud suggest that u go up and talk to her rite b4 class n hold on the conversation until class ends in which case u can continue the conversation for abt 2 days and then pop the great question "Do u have email?" she says "yes" u say "here write it down" hand her a pencil n a paper n while she's writing it say "and write ur number down there too" i doubt that she'd resist n if she does then say "relax, im only gonna call u 9 times a day"
dont worry dude, u'll b fine but i can sure guarantee u that, that^ number close always works
Awesome. Thanks for the advice, that really helps. After class is difficult. She's not very bright in the subject we're trying to get ahead in and often stays around for tutoring, but I'll definetely try that line, it's pure gold.

Ok, I'm satisfied with my situation, thanks for all the help everybody, I'm going to get this done :box:
 

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From experience, whenever you're exchanging looks like that, 3s rule is golden. The first look you can get away with not saying anything, but after that you need to start some kind of conversation, even if it's just a "hey". I totally messed up several approaches earlier in the year because i waited a few days/glances to actually start a conversation. Also, the BL stuff is golden, make sure you check it out
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Remember, theres a fine line between making flirtatious eye contact and looking like a future rapist.
 

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Exactly, that was the problem i ran into..... in my case, that line got crossed when i didn't just approach them after a look or two
 

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Ganji said:
We all give them. We all receive them. No one completely understands them. No one knows how to respond to them.

A very sweet and intelligent girl (who I don't know) and is my AP English class walked past me in the hall and shot me a smile, I automatically thought of everything I had read (I'm such a dork) and quickly smiled back.

My social skills, while not adept, are in tact and I realized a few errors instantly:

-My smile was late and to sudden (and went away just as suddenly since my smile was delayed I wiped it off my face to save face (har-har-har), and ended up looking like a moron)

-I instantly became rigid (I'm generally relaxed around people I know, this amped my nerves) and as everyone here knows that's terrible body language.

-I began walking more quickly (It's bad when they notice this. The Monday following a party I ran into a girl I had fooled around with and nearly started running...not my proudest moment. :down: )

So, back to the purpose of this thread, I'd like some clarification on some of the different type of glances and expressions girls shoot you with and how to react to them.

Staring down a girl only works in some situations (I'm not always lucky), smiling, if not returned because she looks away (shy ones) can be fairly akward, and there's always that hint of indecision where you're not certain if something's sitting on your head, they're spacing out, or are completely checking you out.

I've racked this sight pretty thoroughly for some insight on these minor (but absolutely fascinating) interactions that are, more often than not, the first hints of a relationship in which a guy either lands it big and progresses on to a friendly conversation, getting a phone number, going out, and moving from their or when you're automatically discarded by the eyes of the beholder for responding strangely to make them (in my case, female) uncomfortable.

Lets figure this out and come up with solutions for the many scenarios involving this fundamental beginning of any attraction.

Help me. :up:
are u serious?

u sound like a stalker lol

this de angelo stuff is really getting into some of your heads
 
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