Chumps!?!?!?!

[So pimp its scary]

I don't know if other people see this ever :

So whenever I go to the big clubs around town, I'm often spending a good portion of the night just chilling with my buddies watching the crowds...

Now, from time to time I see guys macking on igirls, and I can see that they posture is all wrong, that their gestures are all wrong... and within minutes they walk away, shot down. Chumps/

Then there's those guys that will grind with any and every girl on the dancefloor, regardless of how many times the friends of said girls will pull them away. Even worse, they'll start grinding the friend after that. Chumps.

I watch guys buying girls drinks left right and centre, without her even pulling out her wallet. Chumps.

The guys standing next to the dancefloor watching the hotties that they don't have the balls to approach. Chumps.

I swear to god, these guys might be good people and everything, but wow... I'm somehow amazed at the level of chumpness that most guys will demonstrate, and consider to be useful in macking.

Then, the sad part is I'm talking to this girl the other day and she tells me about this guy that she meets and calls her 3 times that same NIGHT AFTER the bar... and 5!! times the next day... and then finishes by saying she dated the guy for about a month...

All I could think is : "Why would you encourage that type of behavior from a guy?? You know that's wrong as well as everyone else... he better had been hot or hung like moose."

The thing is, this girl is SO used to guys doing this shYt that she just accepts this as normal... it hurt my soul a little to hear that.

It'd almost be nice to see me guys know how to treat a woman to get her... um... juices flowing... this way at least the standard of expectations would go up a little bit.

On the other hand....

What do you guys think about this?

 

[tmpgstx]

You make some good points. Your example about the guy calling the girl 3 times after the bar and 5 the next day is unheard by a guy that isn't desparate. What he did wreaks of desparation, and why even dated him for a month is beyond me. Some guys just beg a girl until she gives in - literally. It's almost like the girl is giving the a guy a *mercy* fvck because of some guilt trip or something that he doesn't or can't get anyone else.

 

[FRëSHURE]

I think he didn't f**k up by calling her 8 times within the first 24 hours of meeting.

(edit: although, its not something i'd do.)

He was able to date her for a month, so he f**ked up elsewhere. Or may have even ditched her.

Now I don't know what else I'm supposed to be responding to? The way that every guy CAN'T be a player?

Go and watch a game of American Football (gridiron to me.) I don't know ALOT about American Football, but I know that the fat guy at the front ISN'T going to throw the ball to the guys running towards goal looking for a big spiral.

Whats wrong with the fat guy? Why doesn't he throw the ball?

Its the same as these 'chumps' they don't know how to do it. The chumps can't pick up girls in the ways that you and I can. The fat guys can't throw the ball the way the quarter back can.

There will be some guys who will naturally be a good throw of the football, and some who must work at it.

 

[So pimp its scary]

Since that's what stuck out...

She told me that the only reason he got the chance was from calling while she was asleep at night, and picked up the phone just to get silence...

I didn't mention the other part of what she told me... how he became obsesed with her and calling al the time, etc.

Straight Chump.

Freshure... I understand your point, but really, it gets to the point of sadness at some points...

 

[Mr. Cardio]

I know its sadder, but whats sadder, is when people have a site liek this, and are still totally chumps. At least those chumps can have an excuse, whats majority of the members here excuses..

 

[So pimp its scary]

lol....


OUCH!!

lol

 

[SynapsyS]

Honestly, it's guys like these who give us the chances with the hottest girls around.

I help my friends out by "tutoring" them (ie, pimpslapping them when they **** up, and telling them what to do next time), but I'm glad that 90% of the population is dumb as a brick when it comes to women.

Syn.

 

[Mr. Cardio]

syn i agree with you, but even with that being said, look at the population numbers, women out number us like hell. Even if every guy was a don juan, we would still each have more than three women......these chump guys that are on this site, I will have no mercy on, those guys in the street, I will have a little mercy on since they dont know the truth, guys on this site have the damn truth right before them adn refuse to read it, but come here and ask and do dumb gay, afc shyt.

 

[FRëSHURE]

Originally posted by Mr. Cardio
syn i agree with you, but even with that being said, look at the population numbers, women out number us like hell. Even if every guy was a don juan, we would still each have more than three women......these chump guys that are on this site, I will have no mercy on, those guys in the street, I will have a little mercy on since they dont know the truth, guys on this site have the damn truth right before them adn refuse to read it, but come here and ask and do dumb gay, afc shyt.

Its worse when they read, and attempt to teach, but don't actually practise.

You would learn more in 2 weeks of actually sarging then you would learn in 5 months of reading this cr*p...

But I'm also concerned at the guys who ONLY approach.

Or want to learn by doing 500 approaches in under 17 minutes.

There is little to learn that way. Although it would probably end fear of rejection for a while.

 

[green69]

Originally posted by Mr. Cardio
I know its sadder, but whats sadder, is when people have a site liek this, and are still totally chumps. At least those chumps can have an excuse, whats majority of the members here excuses..

owned

 

[SynapsyS]

I'll take those three women to go, thanks.





Seriously though, I have noticed this at parties (not old enough for clubs and pubs yet Have to wait another 6 months), and yet those guys still get the girls.

Know why?

Because that's what girls find attractive. *SHOCK HORROR!* That is, until they start dating REAL men, like every guy should be on this site. Until they date me, they want the needy emo guy, because that's all they've experienced!

Sad but true.

It's priceless when they react to your seduction with surprise and wonder though, as if they're thinking "Omg, is this what i've been missing out on?!"

Ha.
Syn.

 

[Mr. Cardio]

hell syn, you know its no secret that girls like dyck right, so if all the dyck they are getting is the afc dyck, now they just have to put which one they can tolerate for the night, hehe

 

[Mr. Cardio]

freshure you are wrong and right at the same time. Sarging into the field is teaching by experience, which is the slowest way of teaching, the fastest way, is to sit at teh feet for a couple of hours or days of a mentor, a real qualified one, who has been there done that and can teach you the ropes. Its hard to find those quality posters here today, but do a search, the best ones are guys liek gunwitch, etc. I am in sales freshure, that same shyt you say is what they tell new sales people, just go out and knock on doors, even though these people have no clue on hwo to sale. They eventually learn how to sale and then change their ways and begin producing results. All that time could have been saved with a little quality time with a mentor who can get you the real results you want, however finding that quality one, would require some effort.

 

[tmpgstx]

For girls, the best sex stems from their passion for a guy. It's true that a lot jerks get girls because of their dominate personality. It creates passion in the women if she finds him attractive at all in the first place. She wants to be taken, this is her true nature as a female. A male's nature is to take her. Anything in between is just conscious decisions. A girl can have sex with a guy just for that act, though it may not be that good for her. It's still better than not getting sex! AFC behavior does have its place, but the best sex for a woman is not with an AFC, it's with a guy who she finds dominate but not threatening.

 

[Mr. Cardio]

tmp, can you tell that to every chump on here.....dominance equals attraction, tmp, would you sleep with a girl you didnt find attractive? tmp, would you even consider dating a fat, smelling girl? No right, okay...why, because she is not attractive.

Dominace equals attraction for women, once you get that down, all the rest is common sense.

 

[tmpgstx]

Hey Cardio, yeah, you have it right for the women i'm attracted too. They are more feminine and like more dominate guys (not necessarily big physically, just dominate somewhat physically and personality wise).

I've slept with women that i found marginally attractive and they would tell me i'm too hot for them (it was just hooking up). I've been in some long term relationships too. I quit sleeping with girls i'm not that attracted to, or feel i can do better than. I'm not materalistic, but like an athletic girl with some brains.

 

[thederekeffect1]

Originally posted by FRëSHURE
Or want to learn by doing 500 approaches in under 17 minutes.

There is little to learn that way. Although it would probably end fear of rejection for a while.

No offense, but have you ever tried the trial by error approach? Because personally, that's the way I learned, it's the way all the successful guys I know learned and that's the way I teach people. When I'm trying to teach someone how to get more women, I WANT them to get rejected 100 times in 17 minutes. No, not because I'm an *******. Because it works. You learn quickly what to say, what not to say, and how to act after you get rejected enough times.

 

[FRëSHURE]

Originally posted by thederekeffect1
No offense, but have you ever tried the trial by error approach? Because personally, that's the way I learned, it's the way all the successful guys I know learned and that's the way I teach people. When I'm trying to teach someone how to get more women, I WANT them to get rejected 100 times in 17 minutes. No, not because I'm an *******. Because it works. You learn quickly what to say, what not to say, and how to act after you get rejected enough times.

No. Its not how I learnt.

Basically I went to tonnes of parties/clubs. Hung out with my friends, who were hanging out with alot of girls. We all had something similar. We were all shy and inexperienced.

As a result, it basically worked out that the best looking guy picked up the best looking girl who was single. and worked backwards.

I was somewhere around the 5th best looking. (about 10 in the group.)

So I'd kiss maybe 1 girl a month.

So to get more attention, I needed something. My humor developed. I was able to make people laugh, and as a result I was able to create attraction, and hold the group conversation and direct it. I was able to lead.

But I lacked the confidence the other guys had been building while making out with the better looking girls.

I beleived that it was there looks which got them these girls, when really it was everyone else giving up and handing these girls to them.

So in conjunction with this website, I was able to take tips and tricks and build my confidence to a level which was greater then my friends.

Now I rate my game as very high.

Its been rare in my entire time approaching that i'll be rejected.

So I never had to go through the 100 rejectings in 17 minutes.

I don't doubt it works.

But it just seems that all it could cure is a fear of rejection.

Of course, once you don't fear rejection, you can approach and approach and approach and learn in the same way which I did.

 

[Mr. Cardio]

derekeffect, listen to me buddy, and listen closely okay...

There is not such thing as MAGIC. The same thing you say, is the same shyt they preached to me starting out in sales, just go out and get rejected adn you will learn, well newsflash, only a very small few actually learn that way. But most will quit and decide its not for me, etc, etc.

Why is it so hard to just learn from a mentor derek.......I hate when people rely on the NUMBERS GAME PHILOSPHY, as if, there is some magic that says approach twenty girls and two will sleep with you.

When you do that, its like driving blind folded, you have no idea where you will end up. Its dumb to jump in the ring with Mike Tyson without having practised or studied boxing, as if by getting beat up by Tyson will teach you something, yeah, it will teach you what you are doing is wrong and you should change it......you must find a quality mentor, not just anybody, but one that you just know is the guy that is speaking to you, they are all different kinds on this site, take time and read for two days then go out and get success, instead of falling and getting rejected for two months before you try and figure out at least part of teh picture.

 

[thederekeffect1]

Originally posted by Mr. Cardio
derekeffect, listen to me buddy, and listen closely okay...

There is not such thing as MAGIC. The same thing you say, is the same shyt they preached to me starting out in sales, just go out and get rejected adn you will learn, well newsflash, only a very small few actually learn that way. But most will quit and decide its not for me, etc, etc.

Why is it so hard to just learn from a mentor derek.......I hate when people rely on the NUMBERS GAME PHILOSPHY, as if, there is some magic that says approach twenty girls and two will sleep with you.

When you do that, its like driving blind folded, you have no idea where you will end up. Its dumb to jump in the ring with Mike Tyson without having practised or studied boxing, as if by getting beat up by Tyson will teach you something, yeah, it will teach you what you are doing is wrong and you should change it......you must find a quality mentor, not just anybody, but one that you just know is the guy that is speaking to you, they are all different kinds on this site, take time and read for two days then go out and get success, instead of falling and getting rejected for two months before you try and figure out at least part of teh picture.

Have you ever heard a boxer talk about his lifestory? Where do boxers generally learn how to fight? The streets. Where these people come from, no one teaches you how to fight. They learn by getting their ass beat enough times. Only THEN does some manager come along and take them under their wing and improve their NATURAL skills that they picked up through getting their ass beat.

Where do football players and basketball players learn how to play the game? It starts in the backyard. After throwing enough crappy passes to a friend (or your father), suddenly something clicks and you're throwing a perfect spiral, right on target. Then you get to high school and decide to play football. Only THEN does a coach come along and improve your NATURAL skills that you picked up playing in the backyard with your friends.

A singer starts singing to songs they hear on the radio... Even if they start when their extremely young, they probably started singing to the Barney theme song. After getting the notes wrong enough times, something finally clicks and they hit that note. Only THEN does someone come along and help improve their NATURAL skills that they picked up while singing to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme song.

Is it magic? No. It's trial and error. Get it wrong enough times and you're going to get it right. only THEN can someone come along and improve on your NATURAL skills that you learned through getting it wrong enough times that something just clicked and you finally got something right. Go out there. Get your ass kicked. Get a few teeth knocked out by Mike Tyson (who also had more than a few teeth knocked out before he got it right). Throw the ball to the wrong guy. Hit the wrong note. Get rejected. You'll get it right. Having a mentor won't do anything if you don't have a natural skill. And natural skills come from trial and error.

Anyway, we're off topic now.