"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Chronicle of a crappy night out

Who Dares Win

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..Hope at least my frustration is gonna help someone else here.

Let's start from the beginning, I was supposed to meet 2 girls from the university and take them to my brothers house party.
They arrive 30 minutes later at the meeting point, and trust if I didnt promise to bring them at the party I would have simply left with no notice.

I take them to the party where they start b1tching because the guys were not cool enough for them, I tried to get close to the one I like but she kept behaving like a "hard to get" b1tch, so I got some contact here and there but nothing satisfying.

Then my brother said to leave the house and go to a club where he made a reservation for some tables and those girl kept wasting time although informed about the situation.
At some point we lost the patience and shutted off the lights till finally they moved their asses.

Once there they kept b1tching and asking money to the guys cause they didnt want to pay the entrance, somehow we all go inside (dunno how they came cause I was pissed off and entered alone with some friends).
The one I kinda liked spent lot of time talking with an other guy and enter last, at this point I realized she either liked him or wanted me to be jelous so out of patience I moved to the exit and when she asked I said I was going to meet other people.

At this point I went to an other club (also cause the first one was a sausage fest) and approached some girls sitting on a table, thankfully it went well and I sitted with them and started chatting, 2 of them were friendly the others were the classical annoying cvnts who nobody know what they want..however the table was theirs so I had to be patient...again.

Well danced with a goodloking girl from there and sitted, keeping it very casual since I was out of energy then an other guy(friend of the annoying ones) came and picked her up to dance, I didnt bother to do anything cause that guy was friend with all bouncers so I realized getting kicked out was pointless and useless for my objective.

The annoying b1tches at this moment come to me and ask me to leave their table...so in order to avoid troubles I pretended to leave it only to wait till the cute girl was alone, I toke advantage of the moment and discretely got her phone number.

I will update if something interesting comes out from any of the two scenarios.
Any mistake from my part according to you? anything that would have been better to do/avoid?

Hope this will help others to avoid the frustration Im experiencing now.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Mike32ct

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I don't think you did anything wrong.

The two girls you brought to the party were a pain in the a$s from the beginning. You tried to be a good host, but there was no pleasing them or gaming them either for that matter.

The girl you met at the club had annoying friends. There was nothing you could have done about that. Plus, the guy that took her to dance was part of THEIR social circle. So that was also beyond your control. He wasn't some random AMOG from outside her circle.

Pulling the girl aside and getting a number is honestly the most you could have done. And you did that, which is good.

Sometimes you just have a bad night. I've had many of those. No need to read into it too much.

The only advice I might offer is not to bother with girls in large groups (such as at a table.). They're are too many people in her group that can distract her and/or c@ckblock you.

Smaller groups are the most sarge-able IMO.
 

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must say, props to approaching a table , i know i dont have the balls for that yet , but like mike i wouldn't advise it unless I got some serious signals
 

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Thanks for the support guys but Im afraid I could have done a potential mistake, the mistake being introducing them (especially the one I liked) to the group with with I hang around.

The problem is that she could have got phone mnumber of that guy she spent time with so she could be invited to our events even without me inviting them.
The last thing I need is them coming to piss me off directly with their behaviour and indirectly while flirting with that other guy especially after everybody saw me taking them.

Anyway tonight Ill be going out with my group again and we will see what happen, I plan to be friendly but distant in case they will be there.
 

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Who Dares Win said:
a crappy night out... the frustration I'm experiencing now.
It doesn't sound fun at all. Your night sounds like a lot of results-oriented work, as though you have a sales job selling a product that you don't like very much.

Instead of solely chasing women, try to have fun for yourself first, and let women be attracted to that. It might not be the one you had in mind who is drawn to you, but she will be much more fun. What you're doing now is the opposite, and when you're having a crappy night, it will repel girls instead of attract them.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Who Dares Win

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Bible_Belt said:
It doesn't sound fun at all. Your night sounds like a lot of results-oriented work, as though you have a sales job selling a product that you don't like very much.

Instead of solely chasing women, try to have fun for yourself first, and let women be attracted to that. It might not be the one you had in mind who is drawn to you, but she will be much more fun. What you're doing now is the opposite, and when you're having a crappy night, it will repel girls instead of attract them.
Naa its not like that, I wasnt horny at all neither looking for fast sex, I just wanted to enjoy the time with that girl I liked before she started pissing me off.
Its hard to enjoy the night even with the other friend when u're pissed off from her paying attention to that other guy thats why I left.

Seriously that guy knew I toke her for a reason and if they start making out in our group I think I'll pick u the guy and politely explain him that Im getting pissed off so if he wants the girl he is free as long as they dont do in front of me.
Really I know that its my emotion taking over but if I pass the point I'll kick him down, not to hurt him just to put him in his place back.
 
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