Thorninmyside
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It was out of order actually.logicallefty said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Chivalry
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
zekko
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I'm a little surprised that De Angelo advocates chivalry, since it is seems so out of line with the whole manosphere idea of not buying drinks, not pedestalizing, negging, being an @sshole, etc. I've found that a lot of guys on the forum are chivalrous, which really surprised me since the whole "jerk game" thing is pushed so hard here.
Also, one of the biggest insults on the forum is to be called a "white knight". So again, it surprised me that guys would advocate chivalry when it is so closely tied to the knighthood's code of conduct, which they seemingly reject. Then there are the complaints that feminism wants the advantages of the patriarchy with none of the disadvantages. Chivalry seems to be giving that to them.
I'm not saying I am against chivalry. I hold doors open for people (not just women) out of respect. But I am surprised to find so many guys here practicing it when it seems so incongruent with the rest of the manosphere.
Also, one of the biggest insults on the forum is to be called a "white knight". So again, it surprised me that guys would advocate chivalry when it is so closely tied to the knighthood's code of conduct, which they seemingly reject. Then there are the complaints that feminism wants the advantages of the patriarchy with none of the disadvantages. Chivalry seems to be giving that to them.
I'm not saying I am against chivalry. I hold doors open for people (not just women) out of respect. But I am surprised to find so many guys here practicing it when it seems so incongruent with the rest of the manosphere.