"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Childhood best friend died, change of perspective, dealing with exes, etc

Maeisgood

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I don't know if I'm just having and existential meltdown or what, this death is only beginning to effect me, please read and respond. I can't talk about this with people I know because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. I appreciate the honesty of anonymous people.

Recently my best friend from childhood died in a hit-and-run car accident. They caught the bastards, but I can't punish them myself so not much I can do but try to live on. I was asked by the family to speak at the funeral in front of over a hundred people and I didn't eat or sleep for a couple of days because I was so fvcked up from the death, and I "knew" I was going to bomb it and cry in front of hundreds of people, including hot girls from high school. With encouragement from friends, I summoned the courage to speak and everyone came up and told me how much they loved it after the eulogy. Some said they were sad already, but hearing my words brought them to tears. Scariest thing I've ever done, but I'm glad I did it. Having a friend die can really change one's perspective on life.

Hearing the others take about my dead friend made me wonder what others would say about me when its my turn. My friend was brilliant and had potential to be ripped if he had just worked out, he had the aptitudes for greatness, he could have done any career he had chosen, but he never tried hard enough. For those close to him it was frustrating that he couldn't get beyond his parents divorce among other things, the economy, the twenty-something's professional-life angst, etc. I wondered how many would show up at my funeral. It brought a renewed since of urgency of getting my life in order, especially this DJ stuff because being a DJ is more than just memorizing pick up lines.

The ceremony was surreal, it was like a dream. I never felt so close and connected to other people, even people I disliked. I saw a lot of people from my past that day and I felt like I buried a lot of hatchets. Death makes everything else seem trivial. Before the death I was really bothered by a break up with a girlfriend and the break up was nasty.

Other than a couple of Facebook chats in which we had discussed the possibility of us meeting up to "break up in person" which I had been denied this summer, I had not spoken with this girl for a couple of months and she called me to tell me how sorry she was for my loss, despite our break up. Initially when she called me, I was pretty drunk and high and easily confused and said, "its weird talking to you." She freaked out and cried, "How can you talk about 'Us' when your best friend died?!" I tried to explain myself and then was like "screw it" and I hung up. The next night, before the funeral, I called her back because I didn't want her to think that I was sadder about our break up than my friend dying and talked and it was much better. She said her and her mom cried for an hour after hearing about it from someone else. I felt close to that whole family during the time the relationship happened. My mind was clearer and I talked about my speech the next day, how I was concerned about it but I was stepping up to do it anyway, my anger at the killers, how much the friend meant to me, etc. To my amazement, she seemed rather interested in me again, from the tone of her voice. I had been with her for over 2 years so I know what the voice sounds like. After that conversation I haven't spoken with her since and this was over a month ago.

At The Wake of my friend at his apartment, I noticed a very strange sight to me. Dudes and chicks from my high school who were once couples and who had since broken up were talking, getting along, and to myself I was thinking shouldn't these people be hating each other?!

In my zeal to be a big DJ guy, I wonder if I had burnt too many bridges to people. When I broke up with this girl, I unfriended a lot of her friends and people associated with her. I did this because I didn't want to be reminded of her or be tempted to talk to her. Now I think I am the idiot for doing that because I know I'll end up seeing these people somewhere, sometime. It could be at a bar when I'm trying to get new girls, or god forbid another funeral. Part of when someone does something bad all you can do is "be the bigger person."

Although I think entering into a relationship with this girl would be a bad idea, I often wonder I let my emotions make me do something stupid by breaking up with her so fast this summer after our fight. Maybe we could have been fvck buddies at least in the future?

Is it wussy to not want to be remembered as an ******* when my car blows up and I die? Is it wussy to want to have a good reputation to precede me, to make future girls want to hook up with me? I'm just really confused right now. If I could just find a job maybe I wouldn't have time to still wonder about the past. I feel like a ghost just wanting to make peace with the past so I can move on.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Mr.Positive

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Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.

It's never easy, but it's an important realization on just how precious life really is.

Mae, I don't have any answers to your questions, but just know you can't change the past. Life is the present, and the future that you can create for yourself by enjoying the present.

Take the situation you are in now, clean the slate, mentally, and push forward. That's the best any of us could do.

God bless.
 

Beowolf

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I learned the hard way that no matter what you go through in your life, don't get involved with any chicks until you have confidence in yourself, and what you want to do, or they'll eat your heart with mustard.
 

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You shouldn't be so hard on yourself. Tragedy is a part of life and it will happen to just about every one, but living your life on your personal life on your accords will and always be a personal issue and life long conundrum. The path your friends took may not be suitable for you but you may not be as hardlined for a solo act as you think. Neither lifestyle is set in stone but instances of either can shake whatever faith you could have come to realize through recent experience. Know and understand trauma will effect you. Beyond that time marches on and decerning the order is a very long process for the successfully living.

I have can recount lot's of dead friends and family. The only consistent lesson I learned was life will always be difficult, constant, confusing, and unfair. The only thing you really need to know and show is standing tall and proud just once to really be a man. I think you've been there.
 

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Condolences on the loss of your friend. It's never easy. Things like this force you to confront your own mortality. fwiw, a girl I went to school with just got taken off life support tonight and will probably die in a day or two. She'll be the first in my high school class to die from natural causes. Another girl from that same class just got diagnosed with advanced breast cancer. Deaths of people we care about always force us to confront the fact that none of us are getting any younger.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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