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It's great that you have the balls to do that, but I have the feeling that you did "too much". The best option, especially on first dates, it to kiss, tease, back up. Eventually, she's gonna come closer, be way more inviting, even starting kissing you too. The idea is give her a bit, back off, watch her coming to you. Remember, a girl that's chasing you can't dump you.
For me it sounds like a test. But, once again, if you kept on doing it and backing off a bit, she'd be so wet that she wouldn't be testing you this way probably. She felt you pursuing a bit more, giving youself a bit too much, tested, and apparently you failed on it. It's not that you should have ignored and just got inside her house, but just look to her eyes, give her a smile and then kiss a little bit more on her neck, slowly, and then back off with the kisses, maybe just feeling her scent on her neck, not touching too much.
It's great that she did, but when you set up another date while you're still in a date it sounds like neediness. It sounds like "I got nothing else going on in my life, so my schedule is completely open for you". Whenever it happens, it's better to give a "Yeah, we can make it happen" kind of answet, that isn't you setting a date, but letting her know that you like the idea.
Yes, it can happen. But also, since you failed some of her tests, she may be testing you to see if you're not going to approach her first. Let it be for a week (if she doesn't reach out to you in this meantime). If one week passes and you don't hear from her, go talk to her, don't talk for more than 15, and set up another date.
Perfect. In the future when asking out make sure all that is taken care of and nailed down ASAP. If you forget something, tie it down immediately. She needs to see a direct plan so she can anticipate and try to look pretty. Women just want to be cute and show up.
It's a balancing act.
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I think we’re all guilty of over-analyzing sometimes. And obviously not every chick is wired exactly the same. I agree though that generally less is more. I like your last bit about being extra assertive with the ones you like. That makes sense. This chick actually mentioned to me during the date she how I took control of the date (in so many words). I think most women still naturally want to be led even in this leftist/feminist society.
Correction...all women want to be led. The crux of the matter is, they want to be led by a strong, masculine man they can trust to lead. Women, even the die hard feminists, try to tear men down so they no longer respect them and ultimately see them as weak. Just like all women want to be led by strong men...no woman will be happy to allow a weak man to lead her. This is the conundrum with 3rd wave feminists; they are internally miserable. Their whole goal is to emasculate and weaken men, but then they abhor men who actually fail to stand up to them. Thus the whole "no more good men in the world." Which in reality, the good men, the strong, masculine men, just aren't willing to put of with their BS and chose to go about their business and not be around them.
This girl reminds me a lot of my last ex. She wasn't a texter either. Always left me on read and all, but I never chased and there was always fire works and steamy sex when we met up. I never asked her why she didn't text me and ignored my texts. Instead I acted like I didn't care. And then, without me asking.. one night we were laying in bed and she started saying how much she hates guys who keep texting her when she's not replying. How guys get more and more worried and feel like there is something wrong. Or how other guys try to 'punish' her for not texting by not replying themselves. There's no greater indication of being butthurt than acting like a little girl...
But deep down, all along you knew what to do and what not to do. You didn't need this forum
Ayyyy that's what we like to hear! That's great man - congrats.
My last ex was very hot and cold with texting -- but most women I have known typically text a lot. Which is what made this somewhat different than what I am used to since she immediately responded before last night when I would reach out but did not initiate any texting until today. Which makes sense now that we have banged.This girl reminds me a lot of my last ex. She wasn't a texter either. Always left me on read and all, but I never chased and there was always fire works and steamy sex when we met up. I never asked her why she didn't text me and ignored my texts. Instead I acted like I didn't care. And then, without me asking.. one night we were laying in bed and she started saying how much she hates guys who keep texting her when she's not replying. How guys get more and more worried and feel like there is something wrong. Or how other guys try to 'punish' her for not texting by not replying themselves. There's no greater indication of being butthurt than acting like a little girl...
She was testing me by not texting. As she was testing the guys who came before me and the guys that will come after me. The trick is to not care.
This girl probably did the same thing. She has seen how guys can react when she's not texting them and doesn't want to end up with a weakling like that. So, well done on your part man
if u hadnt fvcked it up the first nite u guys met, u wouldnt be facing this issue in the first place
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I take your point to an extent. However, that simply isn’t my style. I typically dress nicely whenever I go out - date or not. And if I ask a woman out I generally will pay. I’m not showering her with gifts - just buying a drink or two. I know some may disagree with that but I don’t consider it beta. Simply how I operate.
Sorry to hear that. I also wear suit and tie when the occasion calls for it but for girls when they FIRST meet you, their eyes look like this $v$
If you’re actually fu*king them though I wouldn’t say you’re an orbiter. The chick who is the subject of this thread has actually texted consistently since we fu*ked the other night. We have another date set for next weekend since I can’t do it this weekend or next week before that. She seems very high interest now. I am only being flirtatious over text and not asking anything of substance.
Just to be clear, I don’t ever ignore a womans text. I recognize the different types of texts. The first text she sends to initiate a conversation (right after exchanging numbers) “Hey how are you” I immediately ask them to do me a favor as a compliance test. I thank them for reaching out and tell them I prefer to correspond via the phone. If the date is already set up and only 2-3 days away I tell them to just save it for the date.
