"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Chick refuses to have sex while someone whom has moved back into my house is about.

Duracell_Bunny

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Been dating her since last summer, and recently became "official".

Also recently my bros has moved back in with me, after ending a 2 year engagement with a b1tch (milked him dry, doesn't work, has an aggressive edge, shows no respect, has children, oh and he's got her pregnant). We both have a share in the property I live in so it looks like if he doesn't crawl back he's here long term.

When he's in the house, she will not do anything when were sleeping together or just generally lazing on my bed. The first time this happened I couldn't beleive it, I was to horny is was rediculous when she pulled me away and shook her head constantly saying no at every following attempt. She did allow a bit of foreplay but only with the use of her covering her mouth with a pillow!

The issue is, she currently lives with her parents and the same problem has happened there.

Her interest doen't appear to be affected for now. When we do get alone time in either my house or her parents house were at it within minutes, and shes very giving and a lot more enthusiastic than before ;)

She's still treating me like gold and not throwing any hissy fits (demanding to pay for everything, always wants to cook breakfast/evening dinners for me and has yet to complain or disagree with anything I want to do). Although a bit possesive, if she's working and I have a night out with my mates she calls first thing in the morning (I always get the impression shes making sure I'm in bed alone) or says things before I go out like "don't shave or wear that shirt you look too nice and I don't want anyone stealing you from me".

When we do get the chance, its bloodey worth the wait but sex once every 1-2 weeks is beggining to take the p1ss. Its also brought on other issues, snuggling up on the sofa infront of the fireplace with some wine and intimate lighting isn't exacly the same when someone is beside you playing call of duty.

All of his things are still at the ex's house so everything of mine is in use by him, and it looks like he might not get them back, all he's got right now is an empty spare room with just a bed and basic furniture. He angers me with the situation a lot and causes a lot of general everyday stress in the house, but I suppose its just what we do for family members.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? Could she start exploring the field for someone else who can provide her more alone time if her issue of refusing discrete sex when someone is in the same building isn't sorted? Finding a quiet place in either of our cars is not an option. I've got a brand new sports car and would rather not mess up the interior or leave any scuff marks that I've kept spotless, her car is way to small.

We have gone halves on a decent hotel for one weekend although that will get expensive if done regulary.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Duracell_Bunny said:
Has anyone been in a similar situation? Could she start exploring the field for someone else who can provide her more alone time if her issue of refusing discrete sex when someone is in the same building isn't sorted? Finding a quiet place in either of our cars is not an option. I've got a brand new sports car and would rather not mess up the interior or leave any scuff marks that I've kept spotless, her car is way to small.

We have gone halves on a decent hotel for one weekend although that will get expensive if done regulary.
It's weird for your girl to deny sexual urges just because there's someone else in the house. Normal people would just try to have quieter sex. She just needs to grow up. Sex is what couples do. It's unnatural do deny it.

Would she start looking for a new man because of this? No. You're trying to apply logic to a woman's thinking. As if she'd think, "Duracell can't give me alone time. I have to find a guy who can." If she leaves you, it'll be for a million other reasons. Or just general boredom.

Anyway, unless you are sharing a bedroom with your brother, I don't see why she can't just relax and have sex like a normal adult. If it becomes an ongoing issue with her, I wouldn't blame your brother. He's going through rough times. This girlfriend needs to adapt or go extinct.
 

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Iceberg said:
It's weird for your girl to deny sexual urges just because there's someone else in the house. Normal people would just try to have quieter sex. She just needs to grow up. Sex is what couples do. It's unnatural do deny it.
Really? So you would be ok having secks if you're mom were the one living in the room next door?

I don't blame the girl at all. Secks requires privacy for optimum comfort and performance. Nobody likes having secks if they have on the back of their mind that there's another adult on the house that might hear what's going on. You think a woman is going to give it her all if there's somebody else on the house that's going to hear her scream and make noises?

Women don't just want a guy that lives by himself due to that showing he's independent. They want a guy that lives by himself so that they can have carefree secks.

Your brother is more important than any hor you might be dating at the moment. So while I don't blame her for feeling this way you could always just dump her or maybe let your brother know to give you and you girl "some privacy" once in a while. I'm sure he could go out with the buddies on friday nights and you having the house all to yourself those days. Make arrangements with him.
 

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You think a woman is going to give it her all if there's somebody else on the house that's going to hear her scream and make noises?
Ahum, I can fvcking proove this almost on a weekly basis (I woke up this morning hearing my neighbor fvcking his gf)... I'm a college student and I hear girls getting fvcked every week man. Hell I've had a screamer before and the whole fvcking building could hear it.

Apparently I felt more embarresed than she did. And apparently the same goes for my neighbors, who don't seem to care if I hear them or not, cause I put on some music as loud as I could so I wouldn't hear them, but still they kept on fvcking...

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maybe let your brother know to give you and you girl "some privacy" once in a while. I'm sure he could go out with the buddies on friday nights and you having the house all to yourself those days. Make arrangements with him.
^this
 

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Iceberg said:
It's weird for your girl to deny sexual urges just because there's someone else in the house. Normal people would just try to have quieter sex. She just needs to grow up. Sex is what couples do. It's unnatural do deny it.
My question to the OP was gonna be "Is this girl 18?"

'Cause the last time I done that, she had the same problem. For about 2 days. Then it was all gravy and lube.

18 year olds: stay away from them.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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i'd just blame some irrational fear of being heard, that i would blame on the fact she is a young american female.
insist, maybe it was just that one time and you'll get her to woman-up and get over it
 
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f283000 said:
Really? So you would be ok having secks if you're mom were the one living in the room next door?
Actually, yes. Because that's how I had sex when I was living at home before graduating college. Parent's room was like 3 doors down. We just did it quietly.

Is it IDEAL? No. But hell, man. It's sex...what else was I gonna do? NOT have it? "Sorry. We're just gonna have to be celibate until I graduate and move out. You still love me for my mind, right?" I damn sure wasn't gonna buy a hotel every time. Or drive to a secluded park like I was 17.

I don't blame the girl at all. Secks requires privacy for optimum comfort and performance. Nobody likes having secks if they have on the back of their mind that there's another adult on the house that might hear what's going on. You think a woman is going to give it her all if there's somebody else on the house that's going to hear her scream and make noises?
For christ's sake, man. Then just have quieter sex. You could either have quieter sex (the rational approach) or just deny it entirely (the extreme approach).

College kids with roommates have sex. Married couples with kids have sex. Families in the early century, with freakin 10 people living in 1 bedroom houses had sex. I live in an apartment in a major city. I hear sex all the time.

Where there's a will, there's a way. It aint like these brothers are sharing a bunk bed.
 

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Regardless of the fact the he is your brother, why is all his stuff still at his ex's place?

Surely he can go and collect that.

And why is he playing Call of Duty right next to you guys snuggling up on the sofa when he has his own room?

He should at least respect your privacy, and like one of the other posters said, surely you could arrnage some times when he could make himself scarce.

f283000 said:
Your brother is more important than any hor you might be dating at the moment. So while I don't blame her for feeling this way you could always just dump her or maybe let your brother know to give you and you girl "some privacy" once in a while. I'm sure he could go out with the buddies on friday nights and you having the house all to yourself those days. Make arrangements with him.
I don't agree that you should just prematurely dump her if she is still into you. Instead, arrange a time when he can be out to give you two some privacy.

And if he doesn't respect your wishes and play ball with that, then you should be asking what sort of brother is he?
 

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This is what sex life is when you have a child, isn't it? Certainly similar to it lol.

Truth of the situation is, your girl isn't into you sexually as much as a good girlfriend would be. Many of my girlfriends did not care who was home (parents, friends, siblings), we still fvcked all the time (it was more fun sometimes because of the threat of being caught).....its all about sexual energy and sexual attraction.

In essence, there should NEVER be a non-physical excuse to not have sex with someone who you are COMMITTED to (in other words, she's your only source of female pleasure). If she's got the flu, if she broke her leg, if she's got a bad hangover migraine, then it's fine to say no to sex with your boyfriend........but otherwise, its simply unacceptable.

Talk to her, and set her straight like a man.

I would love to give you advice on what to do with your brother, but I am an only child, and unqualified to give you advice on how to deal with him, since i've never been in your shoes. If it was a best friend though, I would find the nicest way to kick them out and maybe even help him get their own place.....that's something you can do to your brother too, right?
 

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The Assistant said:
its simply unacceptable.

Talk to her, and set her straight like a man.
" your only source of female pleasure"
oh boy^^ something tells me you must be great in bed ( or not^^). sex is an interaction, you know that right? Or it's rape ^^even within relationship, hell, even within a mariage rape can occur.
this forum is funny sometimes ^^
gf doesnt want to have sex at some stage?? nothing simplier **** itt! force her, she belongs to you and should submit!
:facepalm:, some crazy statements* around here.

op just try to reassue her, convince her, tell her its not a big deal, make her so horny she can't resist
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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She's actually 24. Did rent a house but is back with her parents at the moment while she saves up some for a deposit and morgage for her own place. Not sure but I would say she could have been a late bloomer and proberbly hasn't had sex with someone else around before, she used to be a bit chunky (she lost 3 stone since her ex of 3 years went quiet on her then texted "found someone else whos prettier and a lot more slimmer than you."). She went to a local universiity so has not really expereinced the dorms. If that has anything to do with it.

As for the bros issue, all he has is a tiny bed and a basic set of drawers in that room. No TV, nothing, in debt and can't by anything new. The ex has cut contact with him so right now theres no way to get anything back without trespassing into the ex's house, but thats another issue.

Getting him out the house late at night can be hard, all of his mates are now settled in marriges with children etc. He's a lot older than me.

She stayed over last night and I had success after lot of complaining from her. Although after she was all "I can't beleive we just did that next door to your brother". This morning I felt a loss of interest, she seemed a bit different and wanted to do nothing but sleep on her side of the bed, normally she's not letting go of me saying "just five more minutes" when the alarm goes or gets up and makes be breakfast (not that I expect her to do that, its just different to the usual behaviour) :mad:

Thinking about what some of you have posted I can't think of any other time when she has refused sex. The last time her parents were out she initiated it by directing me to her room. Its only when there is people around she does the funnies.

Will next be seeing her at the weekend. Will find out what the crack is then.
 

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Most girls get off on it. The excitement and all that. 'I cant believe we did that' is almost always a positive comment.

It's one of those things she will immediately reject, but will comply and love it if you take the lead. Like rough sex.

Not wanting sex can never be a good thing...
 

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Hell I've had a screamer before and the whole fvcking building could hear it.
Screamers are the best!

Ahem, as for the OP. Sure, we all prefer to be alone in the house when having sex. But if you will have someone else in the house most of the time, then you have to adapt. Sex should be several times a week unless you are old.

I would accept not having sex when someone else is in the house, if it is just once or twice. But when you're not living alone anymore - then the girl has to accept that. When in history did we NOT live in cramped quarters? It used to be that your farmhouse had your old folks living there too, and all six kids. There would still be sex then, or there wouldn't be a kid number seven.
 
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