"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Chick lies to me?

ElStud

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Okay, I'm just wondering why a chick would do something like this. So yesterday on the bus we're having this conversation and chick says she plays piano and guitar. So I come up today asking her how good she thought she was at piano and she's all "I don't play piano". What the f*ck is this? Yes, this chick just straight lied to me. So I know she lied, but what was the point?

Adding to that, I found out today she could be one of the most boring, aimless girls I've ever met.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Circumstances leading up to her lying would explain the sitaution better.

For example, if she were being pressured etc etc, she might have lied without really wanting to.

If she just came out of nowhere and lied then she's an idiot.

Maybe she's lying to you when she said she doesn't play piano when she really does.

Who knows, who cares.

Everyone lies.
 

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She lied and you went on to find more about her, she's boring. Would you care to make a big deal out of women that lie to you?

'Hey honey, you told me you play piano, but now you saying you do not. You've lied to me, you're totally screwing this up. You're loosing me! Good bye.'
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Yeah, I don't even know if I should keep talking to this chick. By the end of the ride she was much more into this other dude on the bus who did nothing but asked boring questions. I basically told this girl she was "aimless" because she has nothing planned for the future. Asked her if she was doing for the weekend she says "I have no idea" asks her what her goals in life are in she says "I have no idea". Then at the end she's like talking to this other dude who's doing nothing but trying for rapport. She probably just talked to him because she needed someone to talk to. But I need a women who knows where she's going. Not to say that other doesn't have game though, heck, he probably has more game than me at this point.
 

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Is this chick stupid?
Was she joking when she said she played two instruments? She could have been getting your attention, but sounds like she is an attention horr and has to lie to people to get their attention...Don't waste your time on girls like that.....
 

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Yeah, I think I will next her. I don't need a girlfriend who lies. She lies about that, who knows what else she'll lie about?
 
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Kev07 said:
who cares.

Everyone lies.
Wrong!! Not everyone lies!! This attitude of "everyone lies" will be your downfall -- accepting lying behavior is the worse you can do!

She was trying to impress you - but a person who impresses with a lie is not worthy of attention!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Last Man Standing said:
Wrong!! Not everyone lies!! This attitude of "everyone lies" will be your downfall -- accepting lying behavior is the worse you can do!

She was trying to impress you - but a person who impresses with a lie is not worthy of attention!
It's not a "he's probably lying" attitude, more of a "whatever, everybody lies at some point in life"
 
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Kev07 said:
It's not a "he's probably lying" attitude, more of a "whatever, everybody lies at some point in life"
The question is, Why the lie? Very important! If you are having a surprise birthday party for someone - you may lie to get that person to the location where the party is being held but, "I play piano" and the next day "I don't play piano" tells me that she lies a lot and she forgot her own lie!
 

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I never lie. but as far as the girl goes, some people have problems that most people would never be able to understand.
NEXT!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
The question is, Why the lie? Very important! If you are having a surprise birthday party for someone - you may lie to get that person to the location where the party is being held but, "I play piano" and the next day "I don't play piano" tells me that she lies a lot and she forgot her own lie!

I didn't say that lying was a bad thing :woo:
 

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Dee Ta Dee! ~ Carlos Mencia
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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So she lied about playing the piano - who cares?

your well ahead of yourself already looking at this girl as gf material. jeez :nono:

live and learn - cant believe a thread is produced about this.
 

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Oh, and asking 'how good do you think your at the piano is 'LAME'

Your going to have to come up with some better chat than that my man to woo these ladies
 

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ElStud said:
So yesterday on the bus we're having this conversation and chick says she plays piano and guitar. So I come up today asking her how good she thought she was at piano and she's all "I don't play piano".
That's some crazy sh*t!
 
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