"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Chick im seeing BF just sent me a message on Facebook... HELP!

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ThePawnertor said:
OK backstory, meet a chick around feburary who just broke up with her BF, we go out few times here and there but only go as far as makeout. I put my hands down her pants one night in club, escalate all the time we're together so she knows what's up but she always resists and says she only phucks in a relationship. I say meh ok, keep working on her here and there while spinning 3-4 plates.
If you are working on 3-4 plates, why are you so obsessed with this one girl?

Man the guys on here need to improve their negotiating skills. She is not even having sex with you and already has your head spininng.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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ThePawnertor said:
reallly? that will most likely drive her into him more
Yes.

knowing how maniupulative she is shell deny it and call me crazy etc to him and I wont get me laid. I get she's a manipulative *** dumpster but why cant i get me **** wet in the process? She's HOT btw solid 9/10.
So? There are always consequences to sticking your d*ck in crazy, assuming you can.

Salt the f*cking ground before you leave. Remove any and all information and ways she can contact you, if you were stupid enough to tell her anything. If you have Facebook, and she knows who you know... well that's a problem.
 

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First of all, it was a very desperate move in the part of the boyfriend to contact you...you must understand this for what it is, this must be because he is suffering under the pangs of jealousy and he must really care for her. Care for a woman who is not worthy of such care. Now you could be indifferent... but I think as men, we have a certain obligation and camaraderie to other men to be a step above such women.

Save this poor chap the heartache and months of pain and let him know what his "precious princess" is doing and be a gentleman about it...don't act with glee at his misfortune...maybe you won't get to bang this bimbo but doesn't seem to me this one is worth going after to start with. Who knows, maybe you'll make a friend in the process in this guy. After you have done this...whether you bang her or not, it's irrelevant...and to you, as a man, it shouldn't make a lick of a difference. Remember...Beauty is common and the world is filled with other such beautiful women minus the drama. Unless you enjoy the drama...and if you do, you won't find a better triangle like this. I have personally been the desperate boyfriend in the past and been you as well, when the boyfriend called and wanted to know whether I F^cked his GF. Something in me abhors the fickleness and indecision in women and though I know this is reality and bound to happen with even the best of them, I simply can't go after a woman like this. There is something demeaning in this...I would share the facts with the BF and if this little princess had the honor to F^ck me afterwards, it would be for one time only.
 

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ThePawnertor said:
OK backstory, meet a chick around feburary who just broke up with her BF, we go out few times here and there but only go as far as makeout. I put my hands down her pants one night in club, escalate all the time we're together so she knows what's up but she always resists and says she only phucks in a relationship. I say meh ok, keep working on her here and there while spinning 3-4 plates.

Meanwhile, her birthday comes around, I decide to take her out and once again all we do is makeout. Next thing i know i get this random facebook message from her BF who i've never meet or had any idea existed saying they are back together and asking if im phucking her or not, begging me to help as he's scared she's cheating on him etc etc.... I ignore message BUT chick is still texting me and wants to hang out still and thinks i have no idea they're together. What do I do? I really don't want to waste my time.... is there any way to bang chick or is she too attached to bf? Girl is 21 BTW loves drama and is probably getting off on the attention from 2 guys fighting over her. She deactivated her facebook so i cant see whats she's doing as well...

I've thought about confronting girl about message? Will that make me look like a puzzy? Should I just ignore her and let the bf drama wear itself out?
Been there, done that twice. Fvck the dumb sh!t. Tell him she told you she's single and a gentleman doesn't kiss and tell. He needs to talk to her about anything else. Nothing more to discuss. End of story
 

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You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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gspshields2 said:
You should meet up with the boyfriend and fight him.
Whoever wins the fight will be the most masculine in her eyes,
and to the victor belong the spoils of war!

You can tell how much of a pvssy he is because hes begging you to help him
while you are messing around with his gf? If he was a real man, he would phvck
you up for messing with his gf. Clearly he is not. Sounds like a little pushover/wimp
like Joe45.

Don't knock him out right away. Mess around with him a little,
just keep jabbing in the face/stomach while you continually circle him
and keep flicking the jab.

After a few minutes of this, you should go for the double leg takedown, and can go straight to mount because of his lack of takedown defense or a good guard.

When in the mount, take the high mount and start elbowing him in the face.
Ground and pound the sh1t out of him, and really mess up his face, the key here is to mess up the face to show your dominance over her inferior boyfriend.

If you try this on me though, I would let you take me down and then let you go to mount, however, when you are in the mount, I would quickly pull guard on you and put you in a triangle choke or a kimura.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
this made me spit out my drink HAHAHAHAHHAHA

especially the last part, that really shows he knows nothing at all about fighting. LMFAO!! amazing.
i think you have problems my dude
 

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:D So finally PHUCKED this girl last night.

Basically, I did NOT reply to the bf, ignored like he doesnt exist at the same time i was tired of her stringing me along so i decided to manipulate situation for my own benefit and see if i can get puzzy, if not i wanted to surgically remove this broad from my life. I ask her out to grab dinner, act sexual, fun, etc like all is great then drop a couple hints to her about guys always being jealous of me for "stealing their women" etc etc... hinting in a playful way I know whats up but dont care at all and also laying down frame about me being higher value than bf etc in subtle way cuz he jealous/needy.

She starts getting super nervous, but i remain calm and tell her to be honest with me. Finally she breaks down a bit and admits she has an "ex-bf she is still with" most likely some sort of on again off again situation but was on now. I just crack a smile, tell her im heartbroken and guess we cant see each other anymore. I play very cool/calm, not a singlephuck given tell her ill miss her and sad we have to say goodbye forever. Use the forever lines in a strong way to make sure she knows she wont ever see me again. I drop her off at her place and she has hard time leaving, crys etc but I tell her its what has to be done. I take off and know that was not last of her.

Of course yesterday, she calls me 3-4 times in a hr, texts non stop about how she made a big mistake with me LOL Says she has to see me now and shes been thinking of me NON stop for days blah blah we grab sushi last night and go back to my place later for some sweet love makin. I get the feeling she's monkey branching over to me, i honestly dont care got my **** wet and didnt have to do much else. :rock:
 
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