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Chick giving IOI's but then gets on my roomate

MattS

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this chick that i have recently been hanging out with (with other people) gives me IOI's all the time. She is always complementing me like i like your taste in shoes or i like the way you dress and flirts. she never compliments my roomate atleast when im around. we have a lot more in common too, music, likes etc. by no means is she a slvt or AW. shes pretty down to earth. I neg her here and there cause she busts on me. anyways she was over and I was thinking ok well ill probably get on her tonight. Shes with her friend who i have no idea if she wants my roomate or not but all the sudden the next thing i know her friend is upstairs with us and the chick is in my roomates room. i start asking her friend about her she says yea shes interested in you, she thinks noone wants her, and other things about her having low self esteem.

the next morning i asked him if he fvcked her and he said she sucked his d1ck. i was like cool. then we hang out again so that kind of pissed me off and i started acting shady to her. she of course was like wtf. i started negging her really bad and then went on to say other stuff and she was giving me a lot of IOI's then. then she fvckin goes to sleep with my roomate again. she doesnt seem to be fake from talking ot her and what her friend said about im thinking im done flirting with her and just saying fvck it. im going to start acting like a d1ck to her and just ignore and shes going to be like wtf i guarantee but its a little ridiculous .
 

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Stéphane

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Honestly you have nobody to blame but yourself. You didn't strike when the iron was hot, and she went for your roomate instead.
 

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i guess but its like she couldnt wait 20 more minutes. fvck her anyway shes not really my type but that kind of pisses me when people act like that. so i guess im gonig to teach her a lesson for acting like that with me.
 

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she had no idea u wanted her b/c u gave no signals. Your roommate was plenty willing to give her the sausage, and so he did
 

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yea true guess she gave up a lil to easy though. she just went for the less picky easier guy.
 

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yeah just next this girl and forget about her. Despite what you say she seems like a slvt. I mean sucking a guy off who she says she doesn't like. That's shady man. Just don't talk to her anymore.

granted you should have acted earlier, but you were going to act that night (within 20 minutes you said). I'm not sure how long you were waiting but now you know the drill: don't bring girls you like around your roommate.
 

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WOW, your pissed off at her and your room mate because she was giving you IOIs flirting and so on and YOU DID NOT do anything about it? You should be mad at your self, bud. Then you call her easy but yet you wanted her to give a piece of ass!? And now you want to teach her a lesson!?

C'mon, man, you sound bitter. Chalk this up to an experience and follow ezily's advice for next time
 
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dude, she was giving u iois and u negged her? u should have went into a3 and started qualifying her so that she feels like she deserves your greatness and gets invested in u. for her dhvs, u should give her iois so that she at least feels like ur interested in her. u played the game too hard on her.
 

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well i was in a3 doing the bait reel hook release but that was after the fact she sucked my roomates d1ck cause she was still giving iois. when she sucked my roomates d1ck we only hung out one time before that but she was asking me all sorts of questions that one time and for sure giving iois while she wasnt doing that to my roomate who was with me sh1t she acts differntly with him than me. guess she needed some fast azz. he knew her just about as long as i did. thats why im a little bitter she was giving me iois and not my roomate then she goes and sucks his d1ck and does the same thing yesterday, gives me iois then goes and fvcks him. last night i was just disqualifying myself by saying im to toxic she cant handle me shes like my little sister etc,cause i knew they were going to fvck this time and i dont want to give her the satisfaction of thinking two guys are going for her. this girl is younger and is going to go through the ringer. she sees that im ****y, a better dresser, more sh1t going for me, more sh!t in common and not needy.
she was over today and i simply ignored her even when it was just me and her in the living room. she try to initiate and i gave a quick light reply and just walked away.

ill probably end up saying something to her when she tries to talk to me again after i ignore the sh1t out of her. probalby something like "well your first impression kind of sucked and then i started to think you were cool for some reason and was going to start to give you a chance, but then you got on my roomate so theres no point to talk to you anymore."
 

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Well MattS, there's no point in thinking too much in what you could have done. If she's with your roommate, you should back him up. You should also be cordial to her, yet, don't waste any time/effort on her. IE, next her.

Focus on all the other gals. She's not worth your energy now. She made that choice. Be a man and respect that.
 

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You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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MattS said:
well i was in a3 doing the bait reel hook release but that was after the fact she sucked my roomates d1ck cause she was still giving iois. when she sucked my roomates d1ck we only hung out one time before that but she was asking me all sorts of questions that one time and for sure giving iois while she wasnt doing that to my roomate who was with me sh1t she acts differntly with him than me. guess she needed some fast azz. he knew her just about as long as i did. thats why im a little bitter she was giving me iois and not my roomate then she goes and sucks his d1ck and does the same thing yesterday, gives me iois then goes and fvcks him. last night i was just disqualifying myself by saying im to toxic she cant handle me shes like my little sister etc,cause i knew they were going to fvck this time and i dont want to give her the satisfaction of thinking two guys are going for her. this girl is younger and is going to go through the ringer. she sees that im ****y, a better dresser, more sh1t going for me, more sh!t in common and not needy.
she was over today and i simply ignored her even when it was just me and her in the living room. she try to initiate and i gave a quick light reply and just walked away.

ill probably end up saying something to her when she tries to talk to me again after i ignore the sh1t out of her. probalby something like "well your first impression kind of sucked and then i started to think you were cool for some reason and was going to start to give you a chance, but then you got on my roomate so theres no point to talk to you anymore."
OK I'm not sure you should be using negs on a girl who's giving you IOI's. And you spent too much time gaming a chick instead of striking when the iron is hot. But I have to agree with ezily. this girl is bad news. You'd have to believe that her and your roomate are totally oblivious or they knew what they were doing. I think they know and they both made a punk move on you. This girl knows you are interested in her because you told her friend yet she still goes on and fukks your roomate. Your roomate is directly competing against you. From what you described is the girl's attraction was amped up and he esentially gabbed her and dragged her away to fcvk her.
 

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i neg her cause she negs me.i would rather not but she asks for it. but i give her iois. the other night she was working and i was like you coming over after and she said yea and gave me her phone to put my number in. she came over and svcked the d1ck.
im not going to be nice to her nor mean. just ignore her and not say anything. im not going to go out of my way but if she tries to talk to me im going to give her the hint that im not going to flirt and im not giving her any more extra attention. im a vengeful person so thats the way i am. just dont see the point in being polite when they made a punk out of me like ketosix said . i cant respect people that disrepect me. my roomate knew i wanted to fvck her...so fvck him for that...and that girl flirts with me and then goes and fvcks my roomate... so fvck her for that. everyone is getting or going to get fvcked lol.
 
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