"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hey everybody.

Recently i found a chick which I'm genuinely interested at and I'm considering to make her my main plate.

For those who ask if i spin at all any plates , i have at least 3 plates right now but they lack what I'm looking for to a woman. The woman that i speak off has all these qualities that i look for in my current situation except that we have not fcked yet so i can't really be sure about this department.

She came out of a 3 year old relationship and the other guy dumped her. She is since 3 months single and she's still fully into him. I tried to become more sexually aggresive with her but she's still stuck to the other guy.
So any idea on how to play this? Should i back off for a while and then strike again or continue by doing little steps? If i take the second option I'm afraid that I might fall into the friendzone .

Any ideas?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I would say keep her in orbit. Offer her excitement, and a way to take her mind off of things. Eventually she might give in to that frame.

Her ex has power over her, and it would probably be a mistake to try and make her a reliable plate. Consider it as adventure sex.

Position yourself as the guy that she fvcks on the side.
Till now she has not shown any IOIs except that she's almost always receptive, playfull and laughs on my jokes. She has never started a conversation through text and she told me once that i have to keep on initiating. It feels like she plays the "I'm hard" card and I'm still not a person that she could trust. I don't know , i have made my intentions clear from the start but she won't let go of her feelings.
How would you proceed?

Do not chase her back into his arms!

You need to make her chase YOU!!!

Give her the space to chase.
More or less i have a player status and this might hurt my intentions with her. I tried to soften up a bit and gave her some beta traits , things you would hear in Disney like I'm looking for true love and emotional attachment bla bla bla and i even apologised once because of my aggression.

Should i cut contact? I think i have not established the required rapport to do it so early.
 

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Till now she has not shown any IOIs except that she's almost always receptive, playfull and laughs on my jokes. She has never started a conversation through text and she told me once that i have to keep on initiating. It feels like she plays the "I'm hard" card and I'm still not a person that she could trust. I don't know , i have made my intentions clear from the start but she won't let go of her feelings.
How would you proceed?


More or less i have a player status and this might hurt my intentions with her. I tried to soften up a bit and gave her some beta traits , things you would hear in Disney like I'm looking for true love and emotional attachment bla bla bla and i even apologised once because of my aggression.

Should i cut contact? I think i have not established the required rapport to do it so early.
Emotional attachment is fine... I'm only interested in someone who has an impact on my life. The beta thing to do, would be to become all needy, and orbit her.

Sounds like she's insecure and wants you to chase. I would back way the fuk off, at that point, before things become drama.

The drama should be her filling in the space you create, to try to catch you.

If she's asking you to initiate more, you have all the rapport you need.

Do not do what she wants you to do!

Do nothing... and go BE awesome!!!
 
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Emotional attachment is fine... I'm only interested in someone who has an impact on my life. The beta thing to do, would be to become all needy, and orbit her.

Sounds like she's insecure and wants you to chase. I would back way the fuk off, at that point, before things become drama.

The drama should be her filling in the space you create, to try to catch you.
I cut slowly contact and then after 2-3 month I strike again? I'm wondering if I'm gonna be still her only option by then .
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I cut slowly contact and then after 2-3 month I strike again? I'm wondering if I'm gonna be still her only option by then .
Focus on your mission, and get busy with other things. Try not to think/obsess about her too much. (Cut the supply)

You don't want to be her only option, you want to be her best option. She needs to have options so she can see that you are the best and choose you. It's economics. (Increase the demand)

Wouldn't you feel better knowing she chose you out of a dozen other guys?

Be scarce!!!
 

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I wouldn't play it like that. I think that is actually counterproductive.

Girls who have an ex-boyfriend that they can't get out of his shadow want sports fvcks on the side. They don't want more relationship troubles.

You are complicating her life with that sh*t.
Interesting observation . I said those words having in mind that i don't talk to women only to fck them but since she comes out of a relationship , it is as you said counterproductive . I'll keep on going with my alpha style

It's more social than sexual? No tension?

You flirt with her, yeah?
I'm always sexualy aggresive if i don't want to promote a woman into a friend . But she always keeps this neutral stance . I have noticed that women with not much experience in relationships even on the short ones, they won't embrace their sexuality and creating moments of tension with them is very hard. If you add also that she is still stuck to her ex bf and that she would go back to him even if he gives her a slight glance then it's even harder. Considering her lifestyle, her friends and the time she was into this relationship, he was her first.
I wouldn't keep initiating a frigid woman.

Generally, you can tell if a woman is leaving the door open (even slightly) or not.

What is your judgement?
I have made it clear from the first time i met her that i don't have time to play games with her if she's not feeling doing something with me and considering my player status , she knows very well that i have many other options. Even though she keeps this cold stance , if she wouldn't want something more , she would say it. That's why i have not stopped talking to her. The fact is that she propably don't want another relationship and this is what goes against on what i want. As i said , i have already 3 plates where i fck regularly and in 2 hours I'm meeting one of them
I would offer what I said above. A night out away from her troubles.

I would not entertain any sort of position as an emotional crutch. And I wouldn't look to be her next boyfriend.

She probably isn't even wanting another boyfriend at the moment, anyway.

Maybe that's the issue and my conclusion is that i should stop trying further with her.
 

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Three months is too short a time for her to have moved on. It will take her anything up to six months or a year depending on if she still sees the ex or not. As the others have said, you don't need to involve yourself in that scenario and probably some distance is advised, before you become demanding and pushing her further than she wants to go too early. You'll only confuse her feelings for him with her feelings for you. Don't be the sponge, don't be the therapist, don't be the shoulder to cry on. Be the freedom she seeks; be the new adventure she's looking for. Your absence but sporadic passion, the change from her misery will be what attracts her.

The hardest thing is to attract a woman who is clearly hung up elsewhere. If you want her, let her go and resolve her issues first. At the moment, you're just a rebound option. And that, sausage, will not last (if you want it to).
 

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Don't be the sponge, don't be the therapist, don't be the shoulder to cry on. Be the freedom she seeks; be the new adventure she's looking for. Your absence but sporadic passion, the change from her misery will be what attracts her.
You gave me a lot of inspiration from these few lines. Thank you.
 
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