"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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chick calls me up @ 3am to say goodnight? club #

KossHP

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Hmmm did I miss something here?

Ok basically I got this # off this girl in a club last friday. I called her Sunday I think, she was busy then and had to hangup. Not liking phone game I called her saying "I can't talk long right now give me your MSN" So I get it. Didn't get the info down right and added the wrong person. So today @ 3 in the morning she calls me up saying "goodnight" as the first thing she says

Her: goodnight how was night
Me: went to blah blah club
Her: went to blah blah x bar

Convo was pretty much fluff about the night, but she mentioned something about guys not taking no for an answer, so I asked "you got hit on alot", and she said something dunno waht. Then I said "but you couldn't stop thinking about me right" she didn't really reply? (wrong thing to say?) then she mentioned how I called her b4 and asked for her msn, but never added her, then she gave me the right info and said see you online and then goodnight again.

So my question is, did she call me up @ this time for a reason? And was I dumb to not invite her over right now? any other thoughts about the convo?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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3 in the morning? Can you say "desperate ho"? I knew you could!!!
 

gimmeyofonenumba

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ughh. Yes, usually if your gut tells you something, its holds true. Its almost like you know its staring you right in the face, but you dont wanna believe it. If you wanna fvck her, dead serious call her right now and say, hey im bored, wanna come over and watch a movie. Probably too late, but you get the idea.
 

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OK so today (sunday) I go on MSN and this chick is online so we have this convo

Lifterman says:
hey wats up
Girl says:
hi
Lifterman says:
how was ur weekend
Girl says:
good
Girl says:
its not over yet
Girl says:
who is this?
Lifterman says:
the guy who thought ur name was blahblah (inside joke kinda thing)
Girl says:
lol
Lifterman says:
so ur weekends not over huh wat u got planned for today
Girl says:
i think im going to XY club
Lifterman says:
hoping to bump into me? haha i dont go there everyday (club I told her about last Friday)
Girl says:
bump into you?..
Girl says:
oh yes u said u went there on friday right??
Girl says:
ok..well im gonna go .. ill talk to u later
Lifterman says:
hold up one sec
Lifterman says:
do u have that pic u took that night we met at the club? (I was kinda drunk that night so not 100% what she looks like, I just remember she had a nice face)

The she doesn't reply and her status goes as *away*. Not sure if this is done, but I'm gonna still call her up today @ like 2 and invite her over to see what happens. Any thoughts/ideas?
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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KossHP said:
...The she doesn't reply and her status goes as *away*. Not sure if this is done, but I'm gonna still call her up today @ like 2 and invite her over to see what happens. Any thoughts/ideas?
She's a weirdo. Lol. She calls you up, 3 am, then she claims (less than a week later) to forget who you are, even after she "complained" you didn't add her to MSN, and you implied you would.

Don't burn bridges, but consider yourself "too busy" for now. Go meet others.
 

Tear Gas

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sounds like an attention *****...ill try talking to her one more time and see where it goes, but dont hold your breath. hollar at other hotties for the meantime.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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window

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when you called her on Sunday and she said she was busy and then hung up you should have deleted her number...notice how you went backwards into MSN instead of forwards into the date....

next
 

Randallpink83

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so you went from real life to phone to internet.... maybe snail mail next?

hah just busting you're balls.

Yeah she was probably horny when she called you up at 3... her friends probably just barely dropped her off from the club and then once alone she was in no trouble of being considered a slvt...
might have worked if you tried to see her that night... of course, her starting the phone conversation with "goodnight" is the weirdest thing about this girl.

she literally said "Goodnight" as the first thing??? :confused: fvcking strange.
 

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There is a rule we can all learn here:

If a girl whom you barely know calls you in the wee hours of the morning, she is horny and wants you for sex.


You did not advance on the situation immediately. If you did, you would've had one more notch on your bed-frame, I guarantee it.
 

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She gave you her MSN but you din't add her. She feels something is wrong with her because you din't add her so she calls you back to see why you din't. You gave her confirmation that she's still the shi t by adding her so there is no more need to talk to you again. She has no intention of getting with you in the first place.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Someone Much cooler

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Son she is prolly a killer. Would any of yall go to a chicks crib you just met @ 3am in a club???? People are really reckless huh?
 
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