Cheating with married/engaged women

[jhonny9546]

Talking with my Italian friends, but also with other Italians online, here everyone would be inclined to not care and cheat with a married woman, or a woman who is about to get married…


Just yesterday a friend of mine wrote this:

Last night I was at a club in Palermo, nice people, quite lively for it being only Wednesday.


As soon as I enter with three of my friends, we immediately notice a table where a bachelorette party was happening; the girls were very young, the bride was only 25.


A couple of glances, and after a while she comes up to me with a marker.


“Now it’s your turn, want to draw a little something for a memory, not a **** though.”


She smiles, I agree.


I take her leg, I tell her that if we want to do this properly, we need to perform a little more.


Her friends were filming with their phones, at that point she bursts out laughing, I spread my legs and make her rest her heel between my legs, on the chair.


Needless to say, she lifts her dress to show me her thigh and more, I write my phone number, she laughs again.


“I deserve a kiss,” I tells her; she gives me one on the cheek, I smile and go to the dance floor with my friends.


Three hours later, my phone rings, I don’t know the number, I answer, and it was the bride; she tells me she managed to get away from her friends and was getting a drink.


I meet her, make a few jokes about how she’s already ruining her life at 25, she laughs, we kiss, I take her to the beach, among the rocks, and finally we have sex.


Wildly.

Now, anyone could do this.
An opportunity like this could happen to anyone.

Yet I consider not doing it. Because of my value system…
And my friends mock me because I should take advantage of opportunities


They're right that everyone should take advantage of opportunities, especially since women are the first to not be "meritocratic," to feel guilty for having done something, or to not do certain things because they "have values."
We know very well that women are influenced by emotions and that if they can, they will. They will overcome their "values."
But is this really what should distinguish us as boys and men?
Do men keep their emotions in check and instead grow thanks to their values?

 

[Beyond It]

It was a consideration when in my early to mid 20’s. A bit of untested noble rested in me at the time. I’m thoroughly disabused of such notions from late 30’s onward.
This misguided moral code is another rule for men but justified for women, which is universal for all women. Just secretly. I’m not fooled.

It wasn’t something the same old “Rules for thee but not for me.”

So now I sleep with anyone I decide to. Secret super power here, your real power comes from rejecting women. Not sleeping with them.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Do men keep their emotions in check and instead grow thanks to their values?

If you've already resolved to move in on another man's slice, no one will be able to persuade you from doing otherwise, hombre.... Just recognize:

When one day pictures of your own woman getting it up the keester from a dude who ain't begin circulating cyberspace, you'll have no business getting up on your high horse, and lamenting the alleged immorality and soulessness of the modern world. Not when you yourself have been a beneficiary of this same immorality

 

[Manure Spherian]

Talking with my Italian friends, but also with other Italians online, here everyone would be inclined to not care and cheat with a married woman, or a woman who is about to get married…


Just yesterday a friend of mine wrote this:





Now, anyone could do this.
An opportunity like this could happen to anyone.

Yet I consider not doing it. Because of my value system…
And my friends mock me because I should take advantage of opportunities


They're right that everyone should take advantage of opportunities, especially since women are the first to not be "meritocratic," to feel guilty for having done something, or to not do certain things because they "have values."
We know very well that women are influenced by emotions and that if they can, they will. They will overcome their "values."
But is this really what should distinguish us as boys and men?
Do men keep their emotions in check and instead grow thanks to their values?

I consider it a serious offense to interfere with someone’s family, even if invited by a woman. A man has some serious nerve to screw the mother of a husband’s kids and I condone serious punishment at the hands of the husband which unfortunately cannot be done in this overly civilized world.

Other men’s non-cohabitating “gf’s”? Fair game.

 

[plumber]

I consider it a serious offense to interfere with someone’s family, even if invited by a woman. A man has some serious nerve to screw the mother of a husband’s kids and I condone serious punishment at the hands of the husband which unfortunately cannot be done in this overly civilized world.

Other men’s non-cohabitating “gf’s”? Fair game.

women have a different view of this.

probably if the husband can learn early about women. when this occurs he will not be angry, only disappointed. for sure that offender is on a list now with the ex husband.

 

[Manure Spherian]

women have a different view of this.

Right.

for sure that offender is on a list now with the ex husband.

There used to be consequences for this, including making the home wrecker go bye-bye.

 

[Gamisch]

women have a different view of this.

probably if the husband can learn early about women. when this occurs he will not be angry, only disappointed. for sure that offender is on a list now with the ex husband.

Here the problem tho; I also wonder HOW did the marriage happened?

Did "dude" put her through the mandatory stages to make her earn marriage??;
- dating/ fecking. She shows good behavior and progress.
-cohabitation . She is pleasant to be with
- Kids, she's a good mother
- keeps it up for several years
Final stage; marriage.

THAT'S a solid foundation.

Or...did dude rush her to the stand ,trying to lock her down due to HIS insecurities? Because if it's the latter...you can expect her to rebel. And here's the thing gents; if you go about it the wrong way eventually she won't give a F about sharing her deepest darkest desires. She'll cuck you and put your back against the wall. She will explore her desires knowing you tried to trap her. And eventually cheat on you. This is how men end up being cucks, in open relationships, at swinger parties ect. Because she will give you 2 choices; we either break up or I'll do what I want when I want.

Redpill clichés: it's gotta be HER idea!!! She gotta KNOW you are a once in a lifetime opportunity and that losing you will out her back significantly. Ain't no negotiating desire.

Many men will learn the hard way..I don't condone cheating but tbh you can't expect a woman to be a plastic doll that you can play with whenever you like.

To address your last sentence; yeah, project that anger on nee dude who gets offered easy p00sy from YOUR wife instead of addressing the issue at the root cause.

 

[plumber]

To address your last sentence; yeah, project that anger on nee dude who gets offered easy p00sy from YOUR wife instead of addressing the issue at the root cause.

The root cause is always in the mirror.

If a friends girl offers me, i don't take it. Lots of guys do, even family.

Its not that difficult to steal a girl if you know how. Women are what they are. Men that know choose.

If the dude knows me, that's disrespect. If he doesn't then its nothing. So yes, you have it right.

 

[Beyond It]

If a friends girl offers me, i don't take it.

I agree with this.

 

[Gamisch]

I agree with this.

Unpopular opinion;

But it's not as black and white...what about HER actions? She's an adult isn't she???

If you tell homie she came on to you his ONLY and I mean ONLY ONE option is to immediately dump her regardless of what " they've built together " bought a house kids years together blah blah blah.

I won't be surprised if modern males would stay, ditch the homie that was honest and rejected her advances while she cheats on him with any other dude in the future.

Sometimes we date a "our woman" type of woman and we will learn the hard way...

 

[SW15]

It's not easy to cheat with married women or engaged women off of cold approaches. The odds of cold approaching a woman in a daygame venue who is married/engaged and open to new interactions is low. While many women are in mediocre to subpar marriages, they aren't necessarily receptive to sex with a stranger off of an approach in a grocery store.

The best way to have sex with married women who are not satisfied is through being in the same social circles as they are.

Engaged to be married women are more difficult to seduce than dissatisfied/marginally satisfied married women. The women who are engaged are still happy about the engagement and living off of that high. They like the status and positive attention from an engagement. Most are not willing to throw that away.

 

[Manure Spherian]

To address your last sentence; yeah, project that anger on nee dude who gets offered easy p00sy from YOUR wife instead of addressing the issue at the root cause.

Yup, adddess both.

 

[Manure Spherian]

If a friends girl offers me, i don't take it

Are we you referring to non-cohabitating girlfriends?

 

[plumber]

Are we you referring to non-cohabitating girlfriends?

doesn't matter. if he is with me and we have each others backs. its up to him if she is real or not, don't matter where they live. can't know what is in his mind. a loyal friend is worth way more than a fling.

 

[BaronOfHair]

It's not easy to cheat with married women...

And it's to be hoped that one plots to do so LESS frequently than he puts a Glock beneath his waistband, gives serious consideration to mimicking Bronson in Death Wish, whenever he's been annoyed by boisterous and brown-skinned people on the subway yet again*. Unhip as it is to say, in our current cultural climate, our capacity to not be driven exclusively by our visceral urges really does distinguish us from the animals


*I am a dark-complexioned child of immigrants, who once WAS among those who terrorized millions of my fellow Americans while riding public transportation, so please... No accusations of racism. If anything, my sentiments here are a PSA

 

[Desdinova]

In a case like this, I go with what her "values" are (which can be non-existent in the moment of how she's feeling).

Women will cheat for a number of reasons that aren't factual.... It was her one chance, she wanted to make sure she was in a LTR with the right guy, the alcohol made her do it, etc etc etc. If she's not fvcking around with you, she'll be fvcking around with another dude.

My mistress was a prime example of this. She was fvcking around with me on her fiancee. Once I had terminated the relationship, she contacted me wanting to get together. When we did, she admitted she fvcked around on him with another dude.

 

[Beyond It]

Unpopular opinion;

But it's not as black and white...what about HER actions? She's an adult isn't she???

If you tell homie she came on to you his ONLY and I mean ONLY ONE option is to immediately dump her regardless of what " they've built together " bought a house kids years together blah blah blah.

I won't be surprised if modern males would stay, ditch the homie that was honest and rejected her advances while she cheats on him with any other dude in the future.

Sometimes we date a "our woman" type of woman and we will learn the hard way...

If you have a relationship with a good friend. Don’t ruin that relationship for booty. The remaining world of women is fair game. But I restate…real power comes from rejecting women. Not pounding them out.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Values?

People are going to do what's best for them.

There's too much real cost and potential risk with sleeping with a married or engaged woman whose husband is unaware. Pv$$y isn't so exciting that I'm going to put my life or mental health on the line. It's literally everywhere. And such a girl as described in the OP is already unattractive to me, it's dumpster diving. I'd rather just go home and relax than bang an ugly.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Did that once when I was very young and stupid with an older married woman. Never again. She still keeps in contact with me. She’s widowed now.