"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Wodan

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Does anyone have chatup lines, funny things to say? C+F im most intrested in, been finally getting consistent amounts of good looking girls showing intrest 9's-9.5's but im spending 2 long pondering what to say, also are there any threads already devoted to this? i havent noticed them, i want this thread to be of standard things you know of to say and your opinions on theyre success rate, I also want other members to comment on theyre opinion of the chatup :)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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yeah i have a bunch but lemme bust out my calculator and figure out this success rate thing brb
 

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ok ill start the ball rolling but i am a total beginner with this, what i thought to say last night but didnt (yes i know i was being an AFC by not saying anything lol)

ME; hiya hun
HER; heya
ME; if you had a shy friend that sighted the best looking girl in the club, what would you advise him to say to her, to get on her good side?
HER; (i dont know is she'd blank with me asking this or say something sweet :S)
Me; ill say that then ;)

Opinions on this approach good and bad will be welcomed, thanks in advance
 

Wodan

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alright no need to take the p*ss potbelly im asking succesful or notsuccesful, not a ratio or percentage
 
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Do a search there are tons of chat logs in these forums.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Potbelly

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sebastionay said:
alright no need to take the p*ss potbelly im asking succesful or notsuccesful, not a ratio or percentage
ok I'm back bro. you shoulda told me earlier...good thing I checked back before I was done.

anyways, do a search thanks!
 

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searched and couldnt find anything answering my question, whats the harm in a more experienced guy writing down some of his knowledge for me?
 

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Bro I will help you out with an example just because you are a nice guy.

This happened in real life...it's pretty hard to think of examples off the top of your head. Remember you will only get BETTER and WITTIER with PRACTICE. First few times I went out, I said stuff I thought was funny but the chick was like , "wtf creep." It's all about how you say it and minutely WHAT you say. Say anything with the right style/tonality/look, you can say ANYTHING.

Anyways, example time: **scene 1** i'm walking up the stairs. i run into a cute gal from my class**

Me&Her: we kind of collide, not sure which way to go
Her: :) + blush
Me: hold on hold on...
Her: :| ?
Me: if you wanted to dance you coulda just asked (VERY ****y voice...obviously kidding)
Her: haha oooo right
Me: you're XYZ's friend right?
Her: yeah
Me: cool we should study <topic> sometime and grab somethign to eat after. How about this weekend before the midterm?
Her: ahh I might have something to do
Me: alright, I'll find someone else then. Cya

then we parted.

THIS IS THE GOOD PART:

2 days later, I see her in class, make EC, smile do a little wave for her to come over. She comes over but I ignore her.

Her: ...so?
Me: oh can I help you with something?
Her: uh you called me over here
Me: no you just came over here...it's ok just ask your question
her: but...
Me: hey don't worry about it. I like me too.
Her: :) ahhh I dunno
Me: so really what do you want.
Her: um well turns out I have time this weekend
Me: oh really? that's great!
Her: yeah soo let's meet after dinner?
Me: ok but I will have to check my schedule first. you know...to pretend like i'm not interested. Then I'll get back to you a few days later when I realize the desire is too strong. soudn familiar?
Her: o...m...g
Me: haha close your mouth, I will see you after dinner

BAM IT IS DONE.

But so yea study session goes smoothly, but she says can't stay out to get ice cream or anything so I'm like, damn you're LAME and make fun of her for having a bedtime in FVCKING COLLEGE. So I end up peer pressuring her to get some sweets and that's about it. Does not end in a lay, kiss or bj or anything... but I think the convo is what you were looking for.
 

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Good stuff Potbelly!!

I like your technique...I'm still working on good convo skills myself, so I'll keep an eye on this thread. If you have any other suggestions or awesome convo's like this, I would love to hear them as well.
 

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Only suggestion is to smile and treat her like you've known her for a long time before this chance encounter. I think that lowers their defenses...plus people all naturally have a mild mirror syndrome, so if you're quiet, shy and creepy, she will be as well. If you're outgoing, smiley, bright and energetically playful, she is yours. If you don't get a number or anything at least you improved your social skills right? It'll be useful in other areas of your life!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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what do you guys think of my conversational example? is it too AFC or does it just lull them in2 thinking im AFC then redeem itself? :S
 

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i always go with a funny opener or a neg but its not really what you say that counts. If you don't start kino before you say the first word then it is over and you are screwed with that one. At least thats my rule.

Try listening to the pick up podcast (google it) and listen to the one on banter for some convo tips especially about roleplaying.

The most successful opener i have ever used is " so why are you getting all the attention?"

Used on some smokin hotties that were getting hit on by tons of guys and have always felt it provided good results.
 
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