“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Another thread where perhaps we can share some of our worst chat up experiences to indicate what doesn't work or just for a laugh.

A couple spring to mind for me:

I was talking to a girl in a bar for an hour and things were going very well. She said to me "This is such an interesting conversation, I'm glad we got talking". I replied, "Yeah, whatever it takes to get you into bed".

I sincerely meant it as a joke and nothing more, but she took offence. I told her it wasn't meant seriously, but she insisted it was a hint disguised as a joke and said she'd never sleep with a guy who had a one-track mind. Oh well.


Another disaster was when I was talking to a girl at work while smoking. She was *****ing about this arrogant girl we knew and I kind of switched off and just kept agreeing. At one point I said "I see what your saying" and she just lowered her head, excused herself and went inside.

A woman who was smoking next to us and had overheard us speaking said to me "That was tactless of you". I asked her what I did wrong and she explained that the girl was fishing for a compliment and had just said "I don't think anyone could find me attractive" and I had agreed. :p

Worse still, instead of apologising and letting it be known I found her attractive, I said nothing about it. She must have thought I was real cold.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Live and learn.
 

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LOL! That reminds me of a time I wasn't chatting up a girl but I was talking to this acquaintance. He was telling me about his travels and I kept responding "That's cool." Well then he told me that he got his ass kicked and was thrown in jail. You can guess how I responded! He busted me on it and was like "Hell no it wasn't! The **** are you talking about?" LOL!
 

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this weekend just gone although it wasn't really a chat up disaster, more of a c0ck block disaster.

i decided to try and chat to this girl on the dance floor, she was with 4 friends and there was a couple of guys around them. mistake one.. and i should have learnt from previous lessons, its hard to just go up and make a connection with a girl in this situation, i should have played into it a bit but i just went straight up to her and tried to get her attention, this is when i get shooed away by her friend. Now, i can take getting rejected, and i can understand girls not wanting to get hit on, that s FINE by me, but this B1TCH started shooing me away like i was a fly trying to eat sh1t off her face or a rabid dog about to piss on her leg, it made me frigin MAD that she wasn't even being the slightest bit nice about it, so after a bit of that and her telling me to f-off I said to her...

"Can i smell your c*nt?"

"No!!" she replied

So i said "well it must be your feet then!!" and walked off (heard that from here somewhere - pure genius!)

next thing i know some random guy's shoving me and im almost getting into a fight with her boyfriend/bodyguard.

total disaster but funny as hell, i've always wanted to use that line :)
 

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Since thinking more on this, I realise there have been too many times when I must've seemed like a real cold-hearted son of a b*tch - not to mention the opportunities I missed.

There was a time I literally couldn't take any kind of hint, or I was too afraid of rejection to act on it. Some examples (I fancied all of these girls a lot btw):

One girl offered to come to my house with a bottle of wine to celebrate my birthday. I replied "I don't drink wine".

Perhaps the most attractive girl I have ever met in my life was hitting on me all day. She said she didn't have a boyfriend but was looking. She put her hand on my knee and added "...waiting for the right person to ask". I got really tense before replying "I'm sure you'll meet someone".

Another girl invited me back to her house one night and I replied "I don't want to miss Friends".

Worst AFC move I can ever remember (possibly one of the worst in history). A very attractive girl invited me to her house after work and I responded "I can't, my mum will have dinner ready for me". (No joke, I actually said that and I was 21 years old!)

So, as you can see, I was a severely messed up AFC of the worst kind. And I even had the audacity to ask myself "Why do I never get lucky with women?"
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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i missed out on alot when i was young. for instance, a girl at the public library that i only just met was talking to me about her boobs saying it was bigger than her friends' boobs and i was about to leave. she grabs my house keys and shoves it down her top. she told me to get it if i wanted to go home. i never did. eventually she gave it back and i left. that wasn't the first time i met her either mind you. i just didn't have it in me to even play their games. i never knew there was a game to play.
 

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I fell in love with this girl at school a few years back. I'm still sure she was my soul mate.

Anyways, I was at school (aged around 15 at the time) and it was break time. Anyways, this particular girl came up to me. Soon a pretty big crowd drew round us for some odd reason I didn't understand at the time. There must have been about 20/30 crowding around us when she popped the question:

'Tweek, will you go out with me?'

My response....................

'No'.

The crowds response: 'Oh god, tweek wtf!, that's so unfair'

I swear, I wake up in the middle of the night years later just thinking about that little scenario. No wonder she went off with a popular rugby player who was a couple of years older than me. :rolleyes:
 

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Wiped my face and said "say it don't spray it." She said I that was really rude and left. Hehe
 

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Originally posted by Dirtheart


Another girl invited me back to her house one night and I replied "I don't want to miss Friends".

lol thats hilarious.

My worse was when this girl's best friend asked me if I liked the girl I liked - I said no.
 

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In 9th grade, during gym class this really attractive girl came up to me and asked "Hi, what's your name?"

I reply "Alex" without even turning towards her, and without asking her what's hers or anything. She stands there for a few seconds looking at me waiting for me to do something and I can't figure out why in the world she's staring at me, then she just walks off.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Aight, i'll share my pathetic social ineptness as well. In 8th or 9th grade my female friend jokingly referred to her friend (whom I just met for the first time!) as my girlfriend. That day I walked home happily thinking that I finally got a girlfriend!!! I didn't even talk to her friend besides hi!!
 

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LOL! I remember asking a girl out and feeling really pleased when she accepted. I was so pleased she was my girlfriend, but during this time I never actually spoke to her at all, except a month later when I saw her in the street I asked "Do you still want to be my girlfriend?" She said yes, I said "cool" and just walked away and spent the day with my mate.
 

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In year 9 some mates convinced me that some girl would feel really bad if she didn't get a valentines, so being a massive AFC i said i'd write her one even though i thought she was repulsive. Anyway I wrote it on a sheet of exercise book paper and spelt her name wrong; lol never lived that down.
 

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Back in 8th grade, I had a huge crush on one girl... I asked her out by the gym area, next to a pay phone booth. She said no, and I then proceeded to ask every single girl I laid eyes upon (that was remotely attractive) to be my girlfriend... All of them said no - then I'll remember what the last one said... "I would have said yes, but you asked everyone else out so it must not mean anything."

Not that it did.


:p
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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u shoulda blagged ya way through that!
 

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I gotta say, Dirtheart's easily got the worst ones so far.....

My worst would probably be while I was talking to a girl who was wearing a hat. It was just a normal baseball cap, with her hair out the back in a short ponytail, but she was lying on a couch and I couldn't actually see the ponytail. Well, she mentioned that she didn't like blonde guys very much, and seeing as I thought I had seen her earlier and noticed brown hair, I said, "Wow, a girl that thinks like me. I definitely go for brunettes and redheads more than blondes."

I'll give you three guesses what her hair color really was, but you'll only need one....
 
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