Changing Someone's Life

[Gus]

Hey guys, I have a really cool idea here for a friend. We'll call him Doug. Doug is an outcast--he plays video games all day, and watches porn for the rest. He plays on the baseball team with me. He's a pitcher, I'm a catcher. He has ZERO self-confidence, he thinks he is the scum of the earth. He has AMAZING potential, however. He does not communicate with the other team players, much less any girls.

What I'm doing is I'm going to put together a CD for him with all the important information from this site, from eBooks, and other stuff to help him change his life. He's my project this summer--if I can help this guy realize his potential and help him emerge from his depression, I'll be very happy.

I took him to work out yesterday, and he just watched me the whole time because he had a "sunburn" on his back...bullsh!t, I looked at it and it wasn't even red! This is the kind of guy he is...a ***** to the extreme...He has a really annoying, high-pitched, nasal voice--the stereotypical nerdy voice, and his eyes are all sunken back in his head and they are saggy, probably because he spends so much time playing video games.

What I'm doing is dividing the CD into "Step 1" and "Step 2", etc. Each step has a "README.html" file in it, which has links to archived articles, eBooks, and audio files on the CD. It's sort of like the Book of Shuma Gora.

Anyway, I could do this by myself, but I figured I could make this a community project. Maybe I could get some guys to throw in some tips here and there to help me. Maybe, when I get done with this, I could post an iso image or something and other people could give the CD to people who really need it.

There are great articles here at SoSuave, but I'm sure there are a lot of articles out there that are just as good or better. And some free eBooks. So if any of you have some unknown article or ANYTHING, please post it here.

Any of you guys supporting me here or am I doing this alone? Any ideas? Links to other sites/articles? Anyone want me to publish the CD somewhere so you can take a look at it?

Thanks a lot, I hope this works out.

--Gus

 

[Gus]

Sweet, thanks for the boost and the reply...yeah this guy is beyond AFC, he is not the "average frustrated chump", he's the "disgustingly frustrated chump". He's the laziest person I know. But he has so much to offer...

 

[JSH]

Unfortunatley for you, he has to want to improve. I have tried helping two people, the one who i had marginally more success with actually was slightly driven for a while, the otehr was not bothered. AFCdom is like an addiction and you need to be wanting too change and better yourself to benefit from this site and simple advice.

Plus, just include a link to Byron's Don Juan, this is a Summary. Just as a foretaste, ie is this how you want to be.

In addition, if he is smart, make him read translations of great works like Aristotle, Tolstoy etc. Just to get some drive and energy to do something with his life. I don't like modern authors in this context (like Ayn Rand) as most of them have succumbed to AFCdom and our established morals. You want him to question what he percieves as society and not in a depressive way.

 

[Dimebag_Darrell]

I tried turning two of my friends on to this info but they were like, I can get p*ssy anytime i want...but I never see them with any or anything, and they're basically AFCs..

Then I told them to give me back the 5 dollars they owed me each for taking them McDonald's the other day.

 

[Cloud-uk]

I've never tried to introduce another guy to this site. I don't know why, but I just can't see any of my AFC friends A) Accepting they can change their life if they try and B) Having the drive to do it.

However, if you ask this guy straight out if he'd like to do something about his whole "I'm the scum of the earth and I suck" thing, and he says yes, sure! Give him the benefit of the doubt and give him a hand. Goddamn I wish someone had helped me out when I was just starting this stuff...

I'll give some help if you need it. Ooo that so goes against all of my selfish, deterministic, athiest anti-morals. It feels good to feel bad acting good

 

[Gus]

JSH:
Good point about the desire to improve...I think he has it, he just doesn't want to admit it. He was all for working out with me this summer, but I just got off the phone with him and he didn't really want to work out today...quitting on the 2nd day .

I'm not really interested into turning him into a DJ, I just want him to become a man and help the team and the world out. He'll get girls if he does that. But he's really f(_)ckin horny, so I'm thinking of using this Don Juan thing as a sort of bait to lure him into manhood...like dangling it in front of him and leading him out of the cave (hehe Matrix ).

But yeah there's no way to get him to read Aristotle or Tolstoy. He's smart, but he's so lazy he seems stupid to most people because he doesn't use his brain. Damn this kid's taking up a lot of my time...this better work...

Nice link btw, never seen that before...*Ctrl + D*


Darrel:
ahahaha priceless, you a$$hole

Cloud:
Nice, I'll bring it up to him and ask him, if he says yes...then I'll do it. And thanks, I'll need your help later on, I'll PM you.

 

[Dimebag_Darrell]

Here's how I see it.

The kid needs someone to look up to, and if you can do that for him, he will improve by the way you carry yourself(A DON JUAN). Set an example, be the iron man in front of his eyes and show him the way.

spread the f*cking word...spread the g*ddamn word..(jk, don't do that.)

 

[Gus]

I agree Darrel, that's why I'm starting to hang out with him and inviting him to things (to be denied almost every time, but that doesn't stop me). It'll sink in for him soon. I'm glad I'm getting such a good response from the veterans around here.

 

[Dimebag_Darrell]

helping people out makes everyone feel good at the end of the day.

I'm a pretty popular kid at my school, but I go up to some of them kids who seemed to get picked on by the REAL TRASH at school, and I tell em " f*ck em, they're useless, you don't need to be afraid" and I take them under my wing, and although some turn out to be backstabbing themselves, the others respect you truly.

Never take a good man for granted.

And plus, it boosts your confidence and charisma because you're also learning how to be a leader.

 

[JSH]

Originally posted by derEikopf
JSH:
Good point about the desire to improve...I think he has it, he just doesn't want to admit it. He was all for working out with me this summer, but I just got off the phone with him and he didn't really want to work out today...quitting on the 2nd day .

I'm not really interested into turning him into a DJ, I just want him to become a man and help the team and the world out. He'll get girls if he does that. But he's really f(_)ckin horny, so I'm thinking of using this Don Juan thing as a sort of bait to lure him into manhood...like dangling it in front of him and leading him out of the cave (hehe Matrix ).

But yeah there's no way to get him to read Aristotle or Tolstoy. He's smart, but he's so lazy he seems stupid to most people because he doesn't use his brain. Damn this kid's taking up a lot of my time...this better work...

Nice link btw, never seen that before...*Ctrl + D*

My friends are like that, they nag me to come to the gym with the them, i go with them, then the next week, "oh no i cant be bothered", dont they have any commitment. The curse of the modern age is a lack of commitment to yourself (hell, im very guilty of procrastination, although i ALWAYS do my sport and community service and turn up to lessons, i just hardly ever do any work on time).

Don't use this Don Juan thing as a bait, either give him a link (always dodgy, if hes not close he might turn around and blow you off in front of half your school about being desperate enough to use a website forum to help you get women) or just push him in the right direction. You need to find what hes interested in and like Pavlov's dogs, create a link between improving himself and what he wants.

Like Cloud, i'm willing to help all i can (jesus i spend enough time answering ppl's questions already). I'm lazy and never do any work either, but people know im smart, so i can get away with it at times. In fact i prefer the teachers/people that actually make me do things on time.

I get the feeling that you are just starting this lark and want company styly on improving yourself. Im always here, willing to help you as well. but remember if he does it, it will be more competition. And dont treat it as competition between the two of you, treat it as augmenting each other.

Tip: find this boys passions (hell, i dont really know mine either, apart from sculling[more recreationally]), like baseball and link improving himself to improving baseball skills. Make him want to do it.



Roll with the punches

 

[splinterkb]

I tried helping my AFC of a friend. I brought him to parties and whatnot, but he would just sit on the couch, and not talk to anyone. After the parties, he even had the nerve to tell me they sucked. Some people just wont open themselves to new ideas because it causes them to take risks, which makes the secuirity of their lives go away.

 

[JSH]

Originally posted by splinterkb
I tried helping my AFC of a friend. I brought him to parties and whatnot, but he would just sit on the couch, and not talk to anyone. After the parties, he even had the nerve to tell me they sucked. Some people just wont open themselves to new ideas because it causes them to take risks, which makes the secuirity of their lives go away.

Which is why you should make this new part into the security of their lives. If you do this you need to associate pleasure with it, set him on the scent of the biggest tart there.

 

[Phrozen]

Originally posted by splinterkb
I tried helping my AFC of a friend. I brought him to parties and whatnot, but he would just sit on the couch, and not talk to anyone. After the parties, he even had the nerve to tell me they sucked. Some people just wont open themselves to new ideas because it causes them to take risks, which makes the secuirity of their lives go away.

You can't teach someone to enjoy swimming by shoving them in the deep end.

Of course they're going to be pissed at you. Theres a reason things like DJ bootcamp start with just greeting people, then moves onto smalltalk, and so on, before you even think about asking girls out.

 

[Julian]

Like others have said "you cant help someone who doesnt want to help themselves"

 

[MetalFortress]

I like to help people in a "big brother" sort of way, rather than just be like HAY GO TO THA DON JUAN FORUM!!!111. You know, hang out with em, get them to try new things and start conversations.