Change of character when drunk

[zoom5]

Hey, I hope this forum is still alive and with some sane people, cause I've visited it a lot when I first registered...

So I know this girl/friend for 8 years and I like her but we never got together. So i'm trying to make a move here, but she just doesn't want a relationship or anything like kissing or sex. The thing is she still loves to go out and party and drink....then I can make out with her and sometimes we cuddle in bed.

So I know she is more open when drunk. but the other day when sober, she doesn't want to talk about it, kiss me or have me.
Doesn't want sex, it hurt her when she was with her ex, and she just doesn't do it. Also she doesn't like to be nude.

So you would say, move on, why do u want a girl that doesn't like sex.

Well then this week we got drunk on vodka, had a blast we kissed a lot in front of everyone and went to sleep... In the middle of the night I woke up and we started touching each other. She was not resisting and touching me also. (under the pants) Then we somehow fell asleep - too drunk haha.
Also i'm kind of worried because it felt really good when she did that to me and for someone who "does not do that" felt strange for being so damn good at it...


Question:
What can I do to attract her more? I know alcohol is the key her.... but...hey... I need her sober like this, I drink too much anyways.

Also I get really jealous because she goes out with other boys too. Some friends saw her making out, she doesn't tell me that even denies it. I'm no better, I have a F*ccbuddy she's cute, great in bed, but I just can get a spark with her - forget it not gonna happen... Basically I can't judge her for having other guys, cause i'm the same.
That jealousy part is probably killing my chances cause I tell her a lot and I can't control myself and make myself feel bad.

THanks!

 

[mrgoodstuff]

How did it hurt her when she was with her ex?

 

[Dr.Suave]

Red flags left and right. I would jump ship now. New girls turning 18 everyday.

 

[jaymbrs]

Ha. This is your typical hoe. If you're trying to turn her into a housewife, I have no advice for you. If you're trying to bang, you need to watch your alcohol consumption when you're out drinking with her so you don't pass out as soon as you're about to smash.

I can already tell you she's lying about not having sex and probably getting banged by more than 3 other guys. Don't be naive.

 

[Tilex]

You knew her for 8 years?!?
That's a long time to be in the friend zone. The should be really easy. Just keep escalating every time you see her.
Make her jealous of you flirting with other girls.

 

[zoom5]

@mrgoodstuff
She was always bleeding and it didnt feel good.

@Dr.Rocanlover
@Jaymrbs

Mybe true but... That aint motivating me anywhere, im just gonna get jelaus and annoy her and get nowhere
She's 22.
Iwant to get her out of that if it's true?

@Tilex
she knows I have that girl for fun also I text with others infront of her ...
I think it blows her away, but maybe she want's me to think like that?




Im just gonna go with the flow and follow that advice...I just gotta controll my anger amd not attack her with her boys..

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Stop using 'So' at the beginning of every sentence. You'll come across as less ghey.

 

[zoom5]

First person to ever notice that... and I visit alot of forums .
My primary language is not english

 

[zoom5]

@rando5495 what's your suggestion?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

@rando5495 what's your suggestion?

Get with females who desire you.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Ditch her. She doesn't sound respectful.

You did the business. Escalated repeatedly to just slightly outside of her comfort zone, she shuts it down each time, that's all fine.

But that's that.

If you remain friends, don't let her sleep with you anymore.

If shes not respectful why be her friend.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't think he should imo. But if he does, have some boundaries and treat her like any other friend.

An associate or less. There shouldn't be any serious interest on his behalf.

 

[zoom5]

Thanks, but I forgot to mention I got a really big bond with her, so just moving on is hard in terms of friendship. I fought with her alot too about other guys...also her with me and we didn't speak for months and still we get together somehow, cause we cant really let go of eachother.
Im always the one she goes to first and trusts me alot, she is just really introverted ( maybe wrong word) for talking about love and relationships... She always wants to go with the flow and not plan anything... One problem is also she lies alot, to everyone... I dont know why. Like why would she lie she is at home but the someone tells me she was out.

She always likes me more and has things with me when I dont whine to her about other guys, if im myself i have the best chances. Cant control myself tho.

Therefore only alcohol and my whining pushes her away


Today she told me to just be normal and who cares what happens


I know I just answered my question. But I cant solve it somehow

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Thanks, but I forgot to mention I got a really big bond with her, so just moving on is hard in terms of friendship. I fought with her alot too about other guys...also her with me and we didn't speak for months and still we get together somehow, cause we cant really let go of eachother.
Im always the one she goes to first and trusts me alot, she is just really introverted ( maybe wrong word) for talking about love and relationships... She always wants to go with the flow and not plan anything... One problem is also she lies alot, to everyone... I dont know why. Like why would she lie she is at home but the someone tells me she was out.

She always likes me more and has things with me when I dont whine to her about other guys, if im myself i have the best chances. Cant control myself tho.

Therefore only alcohol and my whining pushes her away


Today she told me to just be normal and who cares what happens


I know I just answered my question. But I cant solve it somehow

Your "bond" is due to your time and energy investment in HER. Your investment causes that bond to get stronger over time. Thats why its so hard to let go. And thats why your emotions are so entangled.

This is why we insist for men to ensure that a female invests heavily into him. It deepens her connection and feelings and increases his value.

The arguments about other guys deepened your investment to her but it added to her ego and allowed her to care less about you.

Im not sure you should be there for a friend thats done so little for you.

 

[zoom5]

@mrgoodstuff

Thats a really good reply.
And im afraid youre right... But i think i cant move on. Im too attached. I need to find another girl to get that devotion away from her...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

@mrgoodstuff

Thats a really good reply.
And im afraid youre right... But i think i cant move on. Im too attached. I need to find another girl to get that devotion away from her...

It works like a charm. Get an attractive enough woman whose into you. Have lots of SEX and affection. Your brain will stop trying to make sense of the old.

 

[zoom5]

Okay well everything went down the drain.
Yesterday she told me she's not going to uni, because she has stuff to do at home. At the evening she told me she is with her young cousin and cant go for a drink. Then i was talking to her friend about a party, and somehow that friend told me she is already in uni. Well things turned out she went drinking with some of her fuccboys. I didn't tell her i know but just blocked her off everywhere.. Thats total disrespect towards me in terms oh having me last week, having me to save her ass 3 x that week, and all I get for that is a LIE to go out with some ****ers....
Im done.

@mrgoodstuff Well okay, but no motivation for sex whatsoever... will try, going to loose my mind soon.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Okay well everything went down the drain.
Yesterday she told me she's not going to uni, because she has stuff to do at home. At the evening she told me she is with her young cousin and cant go for a drink. Then i was talking to her friend about a party, and somehow that friend told me she is already in uni. Well things turned out she went drinking with some of her fuccboys. I didn't tell her i know but just blocked her off everywhere.. Thats total disrespect towards me in terms oh having me last week, having me to save her ass 3 x that week, and all I get for that is a LIE to go out with some ****ers....
Im done.

@mrgoodstuff Well okay, but no motivation for sex whatsoever... will try, going to loose my mind soon.

You HAVE to do this to save yourself. Do you really want a bytch who didnt care enough to kill your libido. Once you do the needful you will have more confidence than you did at any point with this one.

 

[zoom5]

She called me now .... Didn't answer... she has no idea what's going on probably...
I think she needs some consulting because I was talking with her friend today and alot of thing she said to me were lies.
And she lies to her friend and everyone.

Started talking with a girl now that I know for a long time, and she got dumped too, so at least I have someone to whine with


My plan now is to find someone else so I can get my mind off her.

 

[Spaz]

Finding someone else doesn't work. Higher probability to screw things up - like getting someone pregnant or rushing off to get married etc.

Focus on something else.

I suggest you internalise some semblance of self worth and start learning on how to be more manly. Go read up some material. Apply it in real life - internalise it all until it becomes part of ur psyche.