"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hi guys,

this is my second post here but i've frequented this place for a few years now.
Only problem is i never realised the importance or reaffirming the stuff i've already learned here ,as some of the best moves and techniques i learn seem to get lost after i score (just kiss) women on a string of nights out. Confidence would be high and i think i can keep going without this place. So if i had to give one bit of advice to you guys who aren't doin it already, print out the most improtant posts to you, from the bible, read over and over again. It helps the stuff stick,

I was gonna post and ask questions about a girl in my class,
and after a few thoughts i will
were both 22, (yes i know i shud be a pro by now but, give me time, have faith, pray for my success and i'll pray for all of yours)
it kinda goes like this,
she: hb8-9,
me: i had a good connection with her but never really showed any sexual interest (playing the cool confidence card too much, i have showed signs of AFC at times, he's like a freekin gremlin) , kinda feel like im in the ljbf zone, but one night out back home some girls that knew her asked me did i fancy her, not really a guy to let girls do my work for me (chump ??) i said she's a savage(thats "great" to all other people besides me....it's my word) lookin girl but don't really fancy her, only after this does one of the girls tell me like a knife to the back that the hb8-9 fancies me, but could i believe her ?was she just takin the piss ?, she did take the piss a few minutes later (how childish this was all getting, mind you i was drunk and didn't really give a f**k, i was in macking mode and alrealy had a hot hot chick tugging on my arm cos she was gettin jealous i was talkin to these girls).

to make a long story shorter this hb8-9 in my class is kinda like hot and cold, when she's out with a little drink in her she be all huggy and dancy like and tugging me round everywhere (me like a douche lapping this up) then after an hour of this(i didn't really mind, was't really up to anythin else anyway) her friends (arrrrrrrghhh) decide that one of them is missing and that a crack squad of 5 of them including HB8-9 is needed to rescue this girl from the unknown, leaving me standing there with a smoke in my mouth thinkin how big a chump i am, that was warm to hot, no cold would be like ignoring me unless something needed to be discussed about class, there has been more warm than cold . even after writing this much i know the solution already .... stop focusing on one girl. it'll rot my soul. (but if you have another solution, be my guest)

One final thing how do you get rid of the clingy **** blockin friends at the end of the nightclub, say for example you kissing the chick for a while but at the end of the night 1-4 of her friends come up and pull her away(arrrrrrrrrggggggg :box: i will i swear arrrrrrrrgggg) or even worse,,,,, the dreaded line, i think we're gettin on great and had my fair share of petting done, she'll drop this, i have to go lookin for my friends , whyyyyyyyy whyyyyyy grrrrrrrrr:box: :box: :box: :cuss:

why
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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dude your sh!t was hard to read. and i have no clue if the girl taking a piss actually took piss or not

but for the ****blockin, you can try making friends w/ her friends, if they all like you, you won't get blocked. or you can get your wings to try to mack on the friends, but you all gotta have decent game. but if she goes lookin for her friends w/out giving you a chance to at least # close, that's not ****blockin, that means she wasn't feeling you
 

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ready123 said:
dude your sh!t was hard to read. and i have no clue if the girl taking a piss actually took piss or not

but for the ****blockin, you can try making friends w/ her friends, if they all like you, you won't get blocked. or you can get your wings to try to mack on the friends, but you all gotta have decent game. but if she goes lookin for her friends w/out giving you a chance to at least # close, that's not ****blockin, that means she wasn't feeling you
It was hard to read, but from my experiences with dealing with ****blocking, you're right in that you should make friends with her friends or at least make them comfortable with you. It's kinda like how you have to "neutralize" a set before attempting to isolate a target at a night club. The girl is always gonna be girl coding her friends to seek their approval so she doesn't look like a slut in front of her friends. Try to isolate away from where her friends can see you but it seems like you're not building comfort with her friends. Why would they let their friend talk to someone who they don't even know? As far as they're concerned, you're a threat and they'll protect their friend. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if all the girls went to the "bathroom" to talk all sorts of trash about you which may or may not be true. If she gave you a lot of interest and all of a sudden is cold to you, she just doesn't want to feel judged by her friends as a slut and may think you're a creep now after a "bathroom visit". You should always get her friends comfortable with you before attempting to isolate usually. I've always noticed that it was interesting that a girl will flirt with me and then whenever a friend (if this is a party where I have no social connections) from some different area come takes her away to the bathroom, the girl all of a sudden avoids me and stops showing me interest afterwards. Hmmmmm.....

Also, if this is a party (since I don't fully understand your post), how good is your social proof? If you know a lot of the people at the party, you can get a lot of indirect social proof, so when her friends ask themselves "who's that guy and what's he doing with HB?". someone might say "oh, that's him, he's a great friend of mine and he's really awesome" and that will help out with the ****blocking so you're not as much of a threat.

Another option is to use a wing, but honestly, most guys are terrible at it.
 

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thanksfor the reply,

sorry it was hard to read, i type fast and don't usually think about what i'm writing,

to clarify,
the girls that i'm talkin about, i would usually meet in a club, a lot of the time most of their friends are not around so there's no chance to gain a rapport with them, i'd be in an area with these girls away from the main crowd, 4 out of 5 times i'd be kissin them. But then along comes the friends who stick around for 30 seconds and tear her away as if i'm a serial (insert terrible charge here).

i'd just like a way to minimize this, i think that some of what is goin wrong is what i say when were kissing away on our own, or more to the point what im not sayin. If theres a pause in the kissing i'm not like i was 10 minutes ago when i was picking her up, i've almost changed back into the AFC i hate. any suggestyions on this one.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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hmm... before they pull your girl away, get proactive, take over the frame and introduce yourself to them, notice something about them, talk about how you just met their friend, make interesting convo. if your vibe is friendly and you're not creeping them out, it should neutralize them

the other thing, and this is probably more important, wait until AFTER you've met the friends before you start kissing your girl. because them seeing their friend making out w/ a stranger is a BIG green light for them to get worried and start ****blocking
 
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