"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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CAVEMAN: Threw Her Over Your Shoulder And Carried Her Off

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I've been reading blogs in which the most skilled guys have been able to go to clubs, bars, beaches, etc. and walk up to a girl and throw her over your shoulder and carry her off. Talk about dominance but it sounds almost too good to be true. Does anyone here have any tales of doing this caveman technique to women? :D
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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That type of carry was more the "sweep you off your feet" bridal style carry, I read about the throw over the shoulder carry like a sack of potatoes.
 

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Enjoy jail!
I think you're going to the extreme here. While calibration is a must (i.e., only carrying girls who are showing interest), it is very successful when done correctly. Yes, it takes massive courage to do it and most men do not. Personally, I do it all the time. This is actually how I got an HB8.5 home one time. I threw her over my shoulder and started walking away from her friends. When she asked where we were going, I said "I'm taking you home with me." She burst into laughter. I set her down and began making out with her. We then got inside my car and the rest is, well, history ;)

I throw girls over my shoulder during dates or after meeting them and building rapport during night game (be cautious in day game). It conveys confidence, demonstrates physical strength, and it's fun! Try it if you can carry the weight, but don't screw up your back; use your legs. Looking back to when we first meet, girls tend to comment how much they liked being "manhandled."

This video is pure comedy. But if you're wondering what mine looks like, here is a demonstration (scroll to 2:15) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alzo4kUd8vw

Keep being money,

-R
 
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If you mean a stranger, then enjoy the sexual assault allegations.
 

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Robyn923b said:
Personally, I do it all the time.

I throw girls over my shoulder during dates or a few minutes after meeting them during night game (be cautious in day game). It conveys confidence, demonstrates physical strength, and it's fun!
One day you won't think it's so fun after some chick freaks out over your antics and you have to explain yourself sitting inside a police station.



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You are entitled to your opinion. I don't live to please others at the expense of my own happiness, which is essentially the foundation of AFChood if you think about it.

Is there a possibility that one of the girls I carry will find it to be weird, and find me, for that matter, to be very weird? Yes, that is true. That is a risk I am very willing to take. Many people our there need to learn not to judge others based simply on the fact that they are different from you.

I would like to clarify that I do not go around tossing random women over my shoulder and having sex with them. Believing that works is idiotic. What I am saying, however, is that when done correctly and timely, it can yield massive results.

No need to get pissy about it. I was just warning you what will happen one of these days. It's not really an opinion, but more a piece of advice that you should take into consideration. Some chick that you just meet who is basically a stranger might get freaked out when you pick her up literally over your shoulder. You will get charged and have to explain your actions at the station. Possible massive results could lead to massive charges. Keep playing Russian Roulette, all it takes is one unstable chick to f*ck you up.
 
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One day you won't think it's so fun after some chick freaks out over your antics and you have to explain yourself sitting inside a police station.
You are entitled to your opinion. I don't live to please others at the expense of my own happiness, which is essentially the foundation of AFChood if you think about it.

Is there a possibility that one of the girls I carry will find it to be weird, and find me, for that matter, to be very weird? Yes, that is true. That is a risk I am very willing to take. Many people out there need to learn not to judge others based simply on the fact that they are different from you.

I would like to clarify that I do not go around tossing random women over my shoulder and having sex with them. Believing that works is idiotic. What I am saying, however, is that when done correctly and timely, it can yield massive results.
 
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Robyn923b said:
You are entitled to your opinion. I don't live to please others at the expense of my own happiness, which is essentially the foundation of AFChood if you think about it.

Is there a possibility that one of the girls I carry will find it to be weird, and find me, for that matter, to be very weird? Yes, that is true. That is a risk I am very willing to take. Many people our there need to learn not to judge others based simply on the fact that they are different from you.

I would like to clarify that I do not go around tossing random women over my shoulder and having sex with them. Believing that works is idiotic. What I am saying, however, is that when done correctly and timely, it can yield massive results.
That's what I was really asking about Robyn, you said it displays strength and confidence which is what I think I need to improve upon. You also aluded to the fact that you know the girls a little such as the example you gave of tossing the girl over your shoulder. How does this translate when you are in a club? How much of a rapport do you have before doing the over the shoulder thing? I certainly didn't mean to say that people should go doing this to random strangers as the police would quickly get involved but I suppose I wasn't clear on that in the OP. :woo:
 

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This could totally work at a house party. Club or bar is questionable...but maybe if she has friends that you know, it would be fine. But yea I could totally see this as a ballsy opener at a house party, especially if you're a built, strong guy and she grabs on and feels your back/shoulder muscles.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I would like to ask how many of the people who responded have actually tried this technique. Dont all speak at once please.
You would walk up to a girl you just met and carry her off down the street?
 

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RedemptionJ said:
No I doubt anyone would but if it's a girl you have established a rapport with it's possible and if it's a house party you could be a little more daring.

I first saw this technique on this blog: http://aaronnunez.com/secrets-of-attracting-women-and-going-caveman-with-paul/

Robyn made the claim he does that.

Robyn923b said:
Personally, I do it all the time. I throw girls over my shoulder during dates or a few minutes after meeting them during night game
Yeah, if it's a girl you actually know that's fine. But not girls you only knew for a few minutes in public settings like Robyn is trying to say. Who the hell would do that?
 

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I've seen RSD pushing this idea. Seems risky, at least, but maybe that's part of the affect. I could see a guy getting a way with this if he was really well calibrated socially.

I saw a video of theirs with Owen/Tyler and some other PUA dude in a club. They weren't doing the over the shoulder thing, but they were lifting the girls up by the thighs in front of them. It was a very odd looking video, these guys looked like they were just carrying these girls around aimlessly.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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zekko said:
I've seen RSD pushing this idea. Seems risky, at least, but maybe that's part of the affect. I could see a guy getting a way with this if he was really well calibrated socially.

I saw a video of theirs with Owen/Tyler and some other PUA dude in a club. They weren't doing the over the shoulder thing, but they were lifting the girls up by the thighs in front of them. It was a very odd looking video, these guys looked like they were just carrying these girls around aimlessly.
Most of those PUA videos are fake. They pay random chicks do the stuff on the videos. I was at a club once and they were paying chicks to be in the videos and made it look real. What do you think some chick would do if you picked her up like a sack of potatoes after you spoke to her for only five minutes at night?
 

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goldengoose said:
Most of those PUA videos are fake. They pay random chicks do the stuff on the videos. I was at a club once and they were paying chicks to be in the videos and made it look real.
I wouldn't doubt that at all. But the video looked so strange because these guys were just carrying these girls around like they were floor lamps or something. It seemed like the girls were just tolerating it, there didn't appear to be any conversation going on or anything. Very weird.
 

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goldengoose said:
Robyn made the claim he does that.



Yeah, if it's a girl you actually know that's fine. But not girls you only knew for a few minutes in public settings like Robyn is trying to say. Who the hell would do that?
I had no idea that I was one of very few guys who do this :up:

I just feel comfortable doing it. Do not actually carry a girl away to your car if you have known her for 10 minutes, though. When I literally carry girls I recently met, I only do it for a few seconds--all for fun. It changes the mood of the interaction and gives them something to remember.
 
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Doing this, point blank, with zero previous interaction is only possible in Club/Bar/College Scene.

Period.

Anyone who says otherwise is retarded, and really looking forward some jail time!
 

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Lotus Effect said:
Doing this, point blank, with zero previous interaction is only possible in Club/Bar/College Scene.

Period.

Anyone who says otherwise is retarded, and really looking forward some jail time!
Agreed.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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