Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Casual Comments Are The Key

JPFromTally

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I see a lot of guys on the board asking for opinions about contrived lines when meeting girls. Doing this will seriously set you up for failure and discouragement.

Never go up to a girl with a line that seems contrived or rehearsed. A lot of times a guy will see a girl that's hot, get nervous as hell, build up his courage and then say something like, "I saw you from across the street and I just had to talk to you to see if you're as interesting as you are beautiful." This is terrible and will usually do nothing but bring a girl's b1tch shield up.

Instead, make a casual comment about the environment you're in to the girl you want to talk to. Simple casual conversation!

For example, I hit up this cute girl at the GAP simply by asking her if they had a certain size of jeans. Then I said, "Are they making jeans bigger but keeping the size smaller just to make people feel better about getting fat?" She giggled and said, "Yeah... I've been thinking the same thing." Then I continued to ask how long she worked there, where she's from, etc.

The other week I was in Border's and saw the girl working there scanning the barcodes of magazines. This girl had an awesome body and was really really cute (HB8.8). So I just said non-chalantly, "Do you guys still rip the covers off the magazine?" She said, "No, we stopped doing that, blah, blah, blah." We talked for a good 10 minutes - I got her number and we hooked up later on that week.

Essentially, don't make a big deal out of the conversation trying to come off as a romantic or anything like that. For every 10 girls using this method you should yield a 4/3/3 result. Meaning 4 girls will not engage you for long (maybe short answers meaning you just politely keep going about your business). 3 girls will talk to you in a friendly manner but the opportunity to number close won't arise. And 3 girls will be friendly, open and talkative just like the two girls mentioned above where after 5-10 minutes (TOPS!) you can ask for her number.

Ok, now you have to trust me on this one: If after a 10 minute conversation (remember, no more than 10 minutes! because it will look like you have nothing better to do) she does not mention once the word "boyfriend" then it's a 90% chance she doesn't have one and you can number close. Women aren't stupid and will quickly catch on that this casual conversation might turn into a pickup. The easiest way for a girl to let you know that she's not interested is to bring up a boyfriend.

Hope this helps.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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JP why didn't you post this earlier? I wouldn't opened the thread about that girl. I have an answer here ;) Thanks
 

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JPFromTally said:
I see a lot of guys on the board asking for opinions about contrived lines when meeting girls. Doing this will seriously set you up for failure and discouragement.

Never go up to a girl with a line that seems contrived or rehearsed. A lot of times a guy will see a girl that's hot, get nervous as hell, build up his courage and then say something like, "I saw you from across the street and I just had to talk to you to see if you're as interesting as you are beautiful." This is terrible and will usually do nothing but bring a girl's b1tch shield up.

Instead, make a casual comment about the environment you're in to the girl you want to talk to. Simple casual conversation!

For example, I hit up this cute girl at the GAP simply by asking her if they had a certain size of jeans. Then I said, "Are they making jeans bigger but keeping the size smaller just to make people feel better about getting fat?" She giggled and said, "Yeah... I've been thinking the same thing." Then I continued to ask how long she worked there, where she's from, etc.

The other week I was in Border's and saw the girl working there scanning the barcodes of magazines. This girl had an awesome body and was really really cute (HB8.8). So I just said non-chalantly, "Do you guys still rip the covers off the magazine?" She said, "No, we stopped doing that, blah, blah, blah." We talked for a good 10 minutes - I got her number and we hooked up later on that week.

Essentially, don't make a big deal out of the conversation trying to come off as a romantic or anything like that. For every 10 girls using this method you should yield a 4/3/3 result. Meaning 4 girls will not engage you for long (maybe short answers meaning you just politely keep going about your business). 3 girls will talk to you in a friendly manner but the opportunity to number close won't arise. And 3 girls will be friendly, open and talkative just like the two girls mentioned above where after 5-10 minutes (TOPS!) you can ask for her number.

Ok, now you have to trust me on this one: If after a 10 minute conversation (remember, no more than 10 minutes! because it will look like you have nothing better to do) she does not mention once the word "boyfriend" then it's a 90% chance she doesn't have one and you can number close. Women aren't stupid and will quickly catch on that this casual conversation might turn into a pickup. The easiest way for a girl to let you know that she's not interested is to bring up a boyfriend.

Hope this helps.
You're talking about situational openers. Yes, they're very natural and work well. As far as a girl bringing up her borefriend? haha. That's not always hint that she's not interested. Watch her actions, not her words. If she's stroking your arm, telling you what color her panties are and says she shaves her box, yet still brings up her boyfriend, then yea....her bf is a non-issue.
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Also known as "phatic communication" and yes, this has worked for me for years. It also works well in making friends and acquaintances.

You can always tell from talking to them if they're interested or not, just by their body language and general enthusiasm to talk to you and that can save a lot of time and effort.

People think way too much about what they're going to say and how it must be witty or profound, then end up saying nothing. And if they do, they end up looking like a try-hard.

Good advice and nice to see someone speaking from experience!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I forgot to mention magic tricks... uuuughhh.. All these freaking dating sites touting magic tricks as a way to talk to women.. It's ridiculous. It reminds me of that movie "Saving Silverman".
 

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JP, I can say for a fact that a woman has brought up the word ex bf to me before, and she still went out with me. It was an ex bf though, and she said that she used to live with him, but she broke up. I think a girl could still say the word "boyfriend" and still be interested though.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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bf's are a non issue for me anyway. I met a girl 2 weeks ago at a resturant, her borefriend was in the place 2 minutes before i got her number. I saw them kiss for god sakes. I called her the next day (4 days my ass, fu*k that shlt). A few days later we hung out and ended up making out heavily for awhile, a couple days after that we had dinner, and last night we fuked for an hour and a half. Hows that for boyfriend? Funny thing, while typing this i just got a text message. Shes coming over right now. Lata!
 

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Good post. But I disagree with the whole, if she doesn't bring her boyfriend up thing. Plenty of chicks that you start random convos with could have boyfriends. Most won't bring them up unless you ask for the number.
 

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JPFromTally said:
I forgot to mention magic tricks... uuuughhh.. All these freaking dating sites touting magic tricks as a way to talk to women.. It's ridiculous. It reminds me of that movie "Saving Silverman".
I'm going to agree with you, but with an exception.

If the man is actually interested in magic, or palmistry, or whatever, then it can work. But if he's just faking it to get close to her, forget it.

I've had several conversations with women about astrology. I can do this because I am genuinely interested in astrology, and many women are interested in it as well.
 

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jamescr73 said:
bf's are a non issue for me anyway. I met a girl 2 weeks ago at a resturant, her borefriend was in the place 2 minutes before i got her number. I saw them kiss for god sakes. I called her the next day (4 days my ass, fu*k that shlt). A few days later we hung out and ended up making out heavily for awhile, a couple days after that we had dinner, and last night we fuked for an hour and a half. Hows that for boyfriend? Funny thing, while typing this i just got a text message. Shes coming over right now. Lata!
ValleyDJing said:
Good post. But I disagree with the whole, if she doesn't bring her boyfriend up thing. Plenty of chicks that you start random convos with could have boyfriends. Most won't bring them up unless you ask for the number.
If you can hook up with a girl who has a boyfriend then awesome.. more power to you. But remember, that most of the guys on this board need a system - meaning "if this happens then do this". Like I said, if she brings up the boyfriend that's usually a sign that she's not interested. Sure if you have the advanced DJ skills you can overcome this but in my opinion you're better of just nexting.
 

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Ok ok this is my take on the boyfriend thing.

Some girls would never break up with their boyfriend, even if she is into you, because this guy has something she needs. It can be money, it can be that big house where she can stay the week end, it can be his popularity...

Second thing : some bfs wouldn't break up easily with their girls (my own case) because they are not DJ, they are just AFCs with enough luck. I've been threatened to death so many time. I just hope he won't pay some big men to beat the sh!t out of me ;)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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