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Careerist/educated women are underrated and get too much hate

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This is what is ruining children. If a woman wants to be a mother, she should at the very least be home for the first couple of years of their lives instead of farming it out to a stranger.
This isn't realistic in the current economy.

First off, more and more women are having babies out of wedlock. Those relationships are unstable and a woman can't be a stay-at-home mom in those situations.

If a woman is fortunate enough to be married when she has her child, her likely beta male husband doesn't make enough money to provide a decent lifestyle for a household with 1-2 kids.

If a woman is married when she has her first child with a man, it is more likely than not she'll be divorced from that man before their first child turns 18. The divorce will likely happen before the first child turns 13. A divorced mother cannot be a stay-at-home mom either.

It's somewhat practical for a woman to work while having children these days. It is better for the child though to have a stay-at-home mom.
 

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This will be anecdotal, but I dated another attorney for 2.5 years. Here is what I can tell you:

PROS
-Very task oriented
-Intelligent (usually) - they will be able to engage you on a more intellectual level which certainly can spice things up
-They have their own money (usually)

CONS
-Constant frame wars with you/will be very resistant to being "led" by you in any fashion
-Will place less importance on the relationship than the average woman/her "career" is always a game changer as it relates to your relationship
-Tend to have more negative opinions on traditional values as it relates to men which usually is going to clash with a red-pill outlook

What I found was that I constantly had to use dread game on this ex to keep her in line and to keep myself in a stronger position in the relationship than her. But this is exhausting to have to do nonstop. And admittedly, this may not be directly related to her being a careerist, but I think these types of characteristics pop up very often with these types of women more-so than they otherwise do.

I prefer a woman who wants a real man to lead her. Careerist women generally are not going to be programmed to think this way. They are going to be highly independent many times and this makes maintaining a LTR very difficult on a number of levels.
Career women also in my experience tend to be less feminine, affectionate and there is always a power dynamic struggle as you mentioned
 

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There are many women with white collar jobs who do not fit the definition of "careerist". They have careers and jobs because, well, everyone does these days. And having a white collar job sure beats being hairdresser or a maid. Women who work because they have to are not be confused with obsessively power-hungry, "girl boss" feminist Karen types.
 

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There's plenty of masculine aggressive women working in non-white collar jobs. Hell, you expect a woman security guard or construction worker to be pretty and feminine.
 

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There are many women with white collar jobs who do not fit the definition of "careerist". They have careers and jobs because, well, everyone does these days. And having a white collar job sure beats being hairdresser or a maid. Women who work because they have to are not be confused with obsessively power-hungry, "girl boss" feminist Karen types.
Would you rather date a feminine, submissive, cooperative maid who is average in looks?

Or a hot Feminist power-hungry girl boss who is a 10?

Just curious
 

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Would you rather date a feminine, submissive, cooperative maid who is average in looks?

Or a hot Feminist power-hungry girl boss who is a 10?

Just curious
I grew up with house maids and I have one currently and I have never seen a hot one in my entire life.
 

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Not so much men hate career women, it’s men hate women trying to be career women at the expense of their youth and fertility.

Between 18-29, generally women want to be career women and men want them to get pregnant, raise kids.
After 30, generally women want to get married & have kids & men prefer they have already had a kid (with them) & be a career women.

The whole world revolves around women’s youth and fertility.
 

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After 30, generally women want to get married & have kids & men prefer they have already had a kid (with them) & be a career women.
Childless men 30+ often want a childless 30+ women to be childless and often not want to have kids with them.

Would you rather date a feminine, submissive, cooperative maid who is average in looks?

Or a hot Feminist power-hungry girl boss who is a 10?
Feminine, submissive, cooperative maid.

There are many women with white collar jobs who do not fit the definition of "careerist". They have careers and jobs because, well, everyone does these days. And having a white collar job sure beats being hairdresser or a maid. Women who work because they have to are not be confused with obsessively power-hungry, "girl boss" feminist Karen types.
One of the more difficult things in dating a woman with a white collar job is determining whether or not she is a careerist.

Unmarried women need to have jobs in order to live.

The woman with a white collar job with a bachelor's degree from a basic university who does just the bare minimum to stay employed is usually more dateable than the ambitious woman, who might also have an advanced degree, might be middle/upper management or a highly paid specialist (lawyer/doctor). Women with bachelor's degrees and white collar jobs but not demanding workloads have the potential to be decent girlfriends.
 

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I'm perfectly fine with career women as long as they dont demand me to go out of my way to fit in their schedule or life habits.

I'm the first one to give them all the space and time they need but I expect the same.

If she tells me she in unavailable from monday to friday, it's totally fine with me as long as she doesnt expect to spend the weekend at social events with large groups of people or expect me to fund it, that's not my life style.
 
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