cardio after weights

[blackbelt2k]

Does anyone here have experience with doing cardio after a weight room session? Right now my current schedule and routine has doing this:

weight room: 4-5ish Pm
cardio: 7-9:30

on MWF and then cardio:7-8pm on TTh

The weight session is:
squats 5x6-8 (245lb)
overhead press 5x6-8 (130lb)
bench 5x6-8 (175lb)
weighted pull up 5x6-8 (45lb)
dead lift.. i try for 3-5x6-8 (315lb)

the cardio is jujitsu and some TKD/muy tai .. I personally don't feel that sore or tired anymore at the end of the day. Do you think the cardio is beneficial or what? anyone with similar experience?

 

[KontrollerX]

I've read many posts from personal trainers on other message boards advocating cardio after weight lifting because that is the correct time to do it if you are going to do it since weight lifting takes a certain kind of energy that doing cardio first would use up and make you too tired to get the most benefit out of your weight lifting workout.

Plus one of the trainers told a horror story about a friend of his or someone he knew that didn't believe in cardio and thought just getting super muscled up was the way to total health.

Well he was wrong.

The guy looked great on the outside but having totally shunned any cardio at all, all of that added extra weight he added by muscling up brought stress upon him that his heart was unable to handle and he dropped dead after work one day of a massive heart attack at age 35.

So definitely do cardio because not only will it add to your endurance it will prevent this type of miserable fate.

 

[Drum&Bass]

The weight session is:
squats 5x6-8 (245lb)
overhead press 5x6-8 (130lb)
bench 5x6-8 (175lb)
weighted pull up 5x6-8 (45lb)
dead lift.. i try for 3-5x6-8 (315lb)

You do all of this in 1 day in an hour ?? and then jujitsu ??
and then your saying you don't feel sore ???

I train with guys on steroids who can't even pull that off.

Whats your Height, Weight and How many Years have you been lifting ??

 

[blackbelt2k]

well thats my strength routine, which i only do on M & F. Wednesdays I do other lifts in the 12 rep change with lighter weights. But I've been training competively for a few ears now in martial arts, and lifting weights since i was 15 on and off. Its only in the past year that I got educated and started strenght training. Right now im 5'7-5'8 maybe on a good day, lol. I weigh about 160 right now. I have about 10 miligrams of bcaa's a day, i get a little less than 1 gram of protien a day per bodyweight. But I do accomplish that in an hour, a 6-8 rep set is done in less than 10 seconds, with about a minute rest between sets. I'm not saying i don't get sore, I'm just saying I survive and feel good at the end of the day.

 

[Throttle]

The guy looked great on the outside but having totally shunned any cardio at all, all of that added extra weight he added by muscling up brought stress upon him that his heart was unable to handle and he dropped dead after work one day of a massive heart attack at age 35.

So definitely do cardio because not only will it add to your endurance it will prevent this type of miserable fate.

Though your anecdote fits the conventional wisdom about what might cause heart attacks, you have no evidence that it was the lack of cardio. Heart attacks hit all sorts of people by surprise. This one just fits your preconceived notions about what is 'good' and 'bad'.

 

[insidious]

Does anyone here have experience with doing cardio after a weight room session? Right now my current schedule and routine has doing this:

weight room: 4-5ish Pm
cardio: 7-9:30

on MWF and then cardio:7-8pm on TTh

The weight session is:
squats 5x6-8 (245lb)
overhead press 5x6-8 (130lb)
bench 5x6-8 (175lb)
weighted pull up 5x6-8 (45lb)
dead lift.. i try for 3-5x6-8 (315lb)

the cardio is jujitsu and some TKD/muy tai .. I personally don't feel that sore or tired anymore at the end of the day. Do you think the cardio is beneficial or what? anyone with similar experience?

JESUS H CHRIST.
Ah to be 23 again :yes: .

My routine is actually similar to yours (less on the DL poundage) except
it's spread over a 2 day split and I don't do any of the heavy-duty
martial art cardio...I prefer the peace of a nice brisk walk with
my headphones. Keep up the good work.

 

[blackbelt2k]

thanks guys, i was really hoping the cardio wouldn't have that much of a negative effect..sofar so good

 

[KontrollerX]

Though your anecdote fits the conventional wisdom about what might cause heart attacks, you have no evidence that it was the lack of cardio. Heart attacks hit all sorts of people by surprise. This one just fits your preconceived notions about what is 'good' and 'bad'.

Oh I was really just repeating the PT's belief about things.

You're right I simply should of presented it as a possibility not an absolute as there are many PT's who disagree with eachother all the time and I had no absolute evidence to back up what he said.

 

[Throttle]

i'm just concerned about that particular wisdom b/c i think it's dead wrong. we project too much certainty about such things way too often. i could give you a long list of guys (and gals) who lived long, healthy lives with no 'cardio'.... now, most of them found some other way to stay thin. i'm really convinced it's the weight around the waist that leads to heart attacks. now i've projected too much certainty