"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Can't you just lie to girls?

thewarrior

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Do you have to tell the truth to a girl you just want to sleep with and/or date for a while? I'm thinking about just making up sh*t when talking to a female and say whatever she wants to hear. I'm a very good actor and have the talent of remembering lies unlike most people who **** up their stories after a while.

My normal self is obviously not attractive to females. My boring job (network technician/engineer) won't win any ***** and I don't have cool hobbies besides technology related. And I haven't traveled to any cool places so that's another strike.

I'm thinking the only girl I'll be honest with is a girl I'd want to marry.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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It depends what kind of lies you are talking about. More detail needed!

Be playful.

Don't let her know you're needy, or jealous, or an AFC, or you've been studying seduction guides and are using them on her.

Don't just tell girls what they want to hear (i.e. barrages of compliments).

Damascus: Girls aren't mind readers.
 
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I won't lie and say I'm a doctor, but I may say I've been to Brazil or something. Of course, I'd read up on subjects that I plan on lying about. Girls may very well be good at social interactions but they don't have mind reading capabilities. If you lie unconvincingly, you will be found out.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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OF COURSE you can lie - there is no law that says that you cannot lie to get what you want from hors who don't know what they want
 

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In my opinion, lying is never a good idea. Even if you are a good liar, do you really want to manipulate people into being with you? I understand that you think you're uninteresting and must compensate for that, but maybe you could actually go out and become involved in things like hobbies and travel, so when you talk about that, you won't be lying. :)

Heck, you might actually meet someone to date/whatever while you're at it!
 
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pLaYtHiNg said:
In my opinion, lying is never a good idea. Even if you are a good liar, do you really want to manipulate people into being with you? I understand that you think you're uninteresting and must compensate for that, but maybe you could actually go out and become involved in things like hobbies and travel, so when you talk about that, you won't be lying. :)

Heck, you might actually meet someone to date/whatever while you're at it!
stop giving advice, you confused little 29 year old crazy lady!

Lying is necessary to get what you want from women in today's society - if you want to change that and have everyone be honest, then women need to start with themselves and stop playing games with men in the first place.

a man who lies to get what he wants from women is simply just playing the dating game better than the women - and maaaan it p1sses the women off to know that a guy plays ABOVE the rules that society brainwashes guys to follow
 

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women lie all the time so why cant men? when you've ever heard a girl tell you what she's "looking for" she just told you a lie.
 

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The Logical Player said:
OF COURSE you can lie - there is no law that says that you cannot lie to get what you want from hors who don't know what they want
Are you that sh*tty and lame that you have to bullsh*t to girls and make stuff up? Id be willing to be that people who lie to girls to get p*ssy (which i think is pathetic) lie to themselves and everyone else (habituation is a b*tch). Now, not telling them something is a totally different story.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Lying is fun and hilarious and a great way to get better at making **** up on your feet during a conversation. Go for it, for your own entertainment at least.
 

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If you're a DJ player type as opposed to a morality crew DJ relationship seeker lying is a great strategy.

Say whatever you have to in order to get in the pvssy bro. :up:
 

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I'm honest. But i lie all the time! by that I mean i never let them know if I'm being serious or not.

I wouldn't lie about myself, what's the point in that?

If you just want to get laid go get a hooker
 

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Here's a better idea: get an interesting hobby and go somewhere funky for your next holiday. Be goofy about your job (talk about the 'secret' stuff you get to find, make a joke out if it)
 

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Just on a practical level lying can be a pain the azz because you have to keep track of it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Damascus said:
You must always tell the truth, girls know when we lie.


We've been stripped of our biological right to take what we want, so use all the weapons you legally can to procure sex. Women sure as hell aren't holding back.




pLaYtHiNg said:
In my opinion, lying is never a good idea. Even if you are a good liar, do you really want to manipulate people into being with you?
Being with me? No. Having sex with me? Yes.

I don't have my ego tied to whether a girl will have sex with me or not. I don't need that hit of validation that she wants to be there for me. Because even if you convince yourself of that as you take the golden route, you're mistaken. She's using you as a dildo.

Everyone manipulates everybody. Everyone lies all the time. A large percentage of men are lying every time they talk to you already. Practically all of us pretend we're looking for a relationship. No, we might want a relationship with you later, but really we haven't even though that far ahead. We want sex with you now. If anything, it's tiring constantly pretending one thing just because polite society thinks only one way of living is appropriate. It's like how people pretend not to masturbate even though everyone does it. Men want sex and everyone lies except for some reason it's "nobler" that women manipulate men for whatever they want and that's ok while men manipulating women for sex is somehow downright dirty and evil. Bullsh1t. I'll even go as far as to say women want to be lied to. "Yeah baby you're the only woman for me." Ha! How many men want one woman when five are available at his call? We just pretend we don't because we don't have five.

If I post on a dating site of course I can't put "i'm looking for 4 girls to have sex with on fvck buddy status." We am FORCED into lying and pretending we're looking for "the one" or a relationship or whatever to even get our emails replied to. Morals are for those who have the luxury to do so. The starving man can't just not steal that bread because "it's wrong." He HAS to eat.

Women use sex as a lure to a relationship. So why should I feel guilt in using a relationship as a lure to sex?

Sure, individual women will stand there and judge and say it's pathetic or whatever else, but sex to them is bountiful. It's on every street corner. They have the luxury of morals.

Oh, and after the number of times i've been talking to a girl and had her drop off the face of the earth and then just flat out ignore me from that point forward without even the slightest bit of courtesy, they have no class anyway. All women do this to any guy they're not interested in. No i'm not interested in the 1 in 10,000 exception, and no, plaything, you're not one of them. If you say you are, you're a liar, but that's okay. We all are. Some of us just aren't hypocrites about it.
 

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I'm getting to the point that I don't have respect for females anymore. I'm not talking about hitting a girl or blatantly disrespect her, but females are no longer special to me. **** them. They're bigger players and manipulators than us.
 

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mrRuckus said:
We've been stripped of our biological right to take what we want, so use all the weapons you legally can to procure sex. Women sure as hell aren't holding back.

Being with me? No. Having sex with me? Yes.

I don't have my ego tied to whether a girl will have sex with me or not. I don't need that hit of validation that she wants to be there for me. Because even if you convince yourself of that as you take the golden route, you're mistaken. She's using you as a dildo.

Everyone manipulates everybody. Everyone lies all the time. A large percentage of men are lying every time they talk to you already. Practically all of us pretend we're looking for a relationship. No, we might want a relationship with you later, but really we haven't even though that far ahead. We want sex with you now. If anything, it's tiring constantly pretending one thing just because polite society thinks only one way of living is appropriate. It's like how people pretend not to masturbate even though everyone does it. Men want sex and everyone lies except for some reason it's "nobler" that women manipulate men for whatever they want and that's ok while men manipulating women for sex is somehow downright dirty and evil. Bullsh1t. I'll even go as far as to say women want to be lied to. "Yeah baby you're the only woman for me." Ha! How many men want one woman when five are available at his call? We just pretend we don't because we don't have five.

If I post on a dating site of course I can't put "i'm looking for 4 girls to have sex with on fvck buddy status." We am FORCED into lying and pretending we're looking for "the one" or a relationship or whatever to even get our emails replied to. Morals are for those who have the luxury to do so. The starving man can't just not steal that bread because "it's wrong." He HAS to eat.

Women use sex as a lure to a relationship. So why should I feel guilt in using a relationship as a lure to sex?

Sure, individual women will stand there and judge and say it's pathetic or whatever else, but sex to them is bountiful. It's on every street corner. They have the luxury of morals.

Oh, and after the number of times i've been talking to a girl and had her drop off the face of the earth and then just flat out ignore me from that point forward without even the slightest bit of courtesy, they have no class anyway. All women do this to any guy they're not interested in. No i'm not interested in the 1 in 10,000 exception, and no, plaything, you're not one of them. If you say you are, you're a liar, but that's okay. We all are. Some of us just aren't hypocrites about it.
This.
 

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and maaaan it p1sses the women off to know that a guy plays ABOVE the rules that society brainwashes guys to follow
How pathetic must your life be in order for you to lie about it.

Honesty is easy to remember and you never get caught in a lie. If you want to make things seem better, then get better at 'selling' the truth and use discretion. Not everything needs or should be said.


Ruckus: You can easily be honest and say the same things. For example: "i'm looking for 4 girls to have sex with on fvck buddy status." = "im looking for someone special who I can have fun with." and the rest they don't need to know.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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