Can't you attack from the "friend zone"?

[TakenDirectly]

I was wondering about this for a while. Seems like landing in the friend zone is the worst thing possible. Still you are able to gain some information from there and was wondering if it's possible to somehow "trojan horse" your way into her mind from there. The way I see it, some people end up and stay in the friend zone because they eventually approach the girlfriend/boyfriend scenario as a friend and not a potential partner. They are the girls emotional tampon, their hangout buddy, etc. and think that the best time to strike is during one of those moments.

I wondered though, you eventually get to know this girl and find out what she might really be like. Eventually you should be able to give her the illusion that YOU are the guy she wants. Show that you have the personal qualities she wants through conversations, jokes, her friends noticing and acknowleding it, etc. Pay attention to detail that she might be attracted to (facial hair, cologne, clothes, etc.) and flirt more and more. Shouldn't this girl eventually feel an attraction to you? I mean, you basically found out what she wanted, make her think you have those, plant the seed in her mind that she wants you and she should eventually start to see you in a new way. Couldn't this work?

 

[Jitterbug]

Yes you can make it happen, but it's too much work and the result might not be worth the time & effort spent. It's a better investment of your time & energy to go after a fresh one.

 

[AKA FLEX]

I've been laid from the friend zone, but it was more on accident than on purpose. Like an earlier poster mentioned, scoring with a chick you're "just friends" with is not something I would put a lot of time or effort into. Definitely focus on other women, but if it happens, great... and it has been known to happen on occasion.

 

[TakenDirectly]

F*CK!

God I have to wake up one day.

Seriously, I thought I had this girl. So ****ing weird, but I thought I could somehow attack from the friend zone since there was this constant flirting with us. She constantly flirts and I flirt and we make it sound like we could hook up one night. Still the one time I engage her in conversation SHE makes it sound like maybe, but I'm too nice and all that, but then again she's always talking about my sense of humor and my manliness. **** **** **** ****! I seriously need some time off from this **** to just get myself together again.

Just doesn't work for me.

 

[r0cky]

The only thing that can get you laid after you've been LJBF'ed is NLP.
BUT
1. NLP is not an easy skill to learn. You need so much practice that you will probably forget about this girl by the time you've learned it.
2. Most girls that LJBF you are not interested in having you as a friend, they just want to drop you in a nice way. So, only if she is interested in having you around will you have some alone time with her and do NLP.

 

[Warrior74]

The only time I ever got a girl from the friendzone, I cut all contact for 6 months. I came back as a ****y fun guy. A new and improved version who wouldn't be drawn back into the friendzone. I was agressive sexually and I won. But I slide back into the friendzone when I got comfortable with her....my game was on me, not in me. I moved on.

Best to move on. Or do what I did with mine... I use her as a sounding board for the things I learn on forums like this. I talk to her about dating and dating advice. I tell her about my situations with girls and laugh when she gives me messed up advice. lol.

 

[Telos]

This is all complete bull****. It's really not hard to get out of the friend zone if you know what you are doing and reorient your frame correctly. The key is to withdraw contact for awhile, and then once you step back in her life you must be sexually aggressive. Extremely aggressive.

Always isolate her and never leave her presence without making a move before the end of the night. You must demonstrate that you are now a sexual threat... and while you will get rejected the first couple times you will eventually get a green light. If she rejects you, play it off and then distance.

I've ****ed a couple "friends" including a long time girl that LJBFd me in high-school. We had the whole "bro/sis" relationship that normally dooms men into the no-****-zone for eternity but I was able to escape it in just about a month's time. It's not impossible.

 

[Telos]

The only time I ever got a girl from the friendzone, I cut all contact for 6 months. I came back as a ****y fun guy. A new and improved version who wouldn't be drawn back into the friendzone. I was agressive sexually and I won.

Exactly.

 

[TakenDirectly]

LMAO, ok I took some Gin and called this girl. Basically, I was able to get it out of her that she liked me. Looks like I might not be lost afterall. Still I gotta do something soon or else lose it. Ok, this might be the Gin, but I'm a little happier and relaxed now.

 

[brian123]

It looks like the only way to get out of the FZ is to withdraw for a bit. I think I may have entered the FZ with this one girl. I am going to wait a few months, and then get a hold of her and then attack, attack, attack.

 

[SilverSliver]

I have a habit myself of getting in the friend zone. I have found the best thing to do is the 1 2 Punch
#1 Focus on all of her negative qualities in your own mind, which lowers your own interest level in her
#2 Go find other people to date, when she calls tell her your busy for awhile, bonus points for dating someone she knows and is compoetitive with but isn't a great friend of hers

these 2 things will naturally make you withdraw, and not look like your desperate for her, not to mention since your dating someone else your not wasting time. Later on you can go back and see what happens, make her try to get you over. I personally like saying "I am sore and tired I'll come over but you so gotta give me a shoulder rub" Make her do something physical with you. If she can't give you a shoulder rub then she is way selfish, guys can test too, and thats a big fail right there NEXT!

I have tried the David Deangelo thing by explaining that you just wanting to have a relationship where we just "talk" is like me wanting a relationship where we Just "F*CK" I got a ton of women I can just sit and talk to you have a ton of guys you could have sex with we all want the opposite side since it's something we have a lack of blah blah. I have had mixed results, sometimes it works, sometimes they refuse to accept it. It works better if your blunt then to do the gold diamonds rotine.

In any case most people here are right for the amount of time/money (To me they are the same thing) you spend, it's usually not really worth it. Once you do the first step and focus on all there negative traits it tends to dull the shine and put them in a different perspective in your mind. Then you tend to ask yourself "What the F' am I doing? I can do way beter then this crap."

 

[true romance]

Dons is right

I wondered though, you eventually get to know this girl and find out what she might really be like. Eventually you should be able to give her the illusion that YOU are the guy she wants. Show that you have the personal qualities she wants through conversations, jokes, her friends noticing and acknowleding it, etc. Pay attention to detail that she might be attracted to (facial hair, cologne, clothes, etc.) and flirt more and more. Shouldn't this girl eventually feel an attraction to you? I mean, you basically found out what she wanted, make her think you have those, plant the seed in her mind that she wants you and she should eventually start to see you in a new way. Couldn't this work?
==========> Too much energy, waste time

I notice everytime there is a chick that I like I turn on the flirting machine right away, C&F, be sexual...they know your intention and even you get rejected you know you are not in FZ. Always on.



attraction is not a choice so the first time she meet you be bold, different, flirt, be sexual.

Once you do all listening, hang out, find out what she like you will be in FZ.

Star sexual first then find out the rest....