ok so theres this hb9 that i talked to a little last thursday. we were both waiting for our rides. she initiated conversation and it went on for a couple of minutes. next day she sees me in the hallway and says hi so i say hi back. today we saw each other in the hall again and made eye contact but she didnt say hi or even smile. it was like she didnt even know who i was. is she waiting for me to say something to her? or was that convo just a one time thing. what should i say to her next time i see her? something like hey u dont say hi anymore or something?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Can't think of a thread title. Just read please
- Thread starter iCatch
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Five To One
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Your lucky she even initiated a conversation the first day, thats suppose to be your job.
And so yes she is waiting for you to say hi first. What you should say after that is up to you. You could try giving her a hard time for ignoring you the other day if you think its appropriate but it all just depends on the situation.
good luck
And so yes she is waiting for you to say hi first. What you should say after that is up to you. You could try giving her a hard time for ignoring you the other day if you think its appropriate but it all just depends on the situation.
good luck
FirstInstinct
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Read this entire post.
You're overthinking here.
Read your question back to yourself.
You're stressing about some hot chick saying HELLO to you, then passing by and not saying it the second time. A hello is a GREETING, and a friendly one at that. Nothing more. It has no meaning beyond that which you give to it. It's a ****ing word, a sign of acknowledgement. It's just that.
You're over-analyzing here and that is one of THE WORST possible things you can do. I have seen many a man overanalyze a situation and a girl's behaviour, only to be brutally rejected, or live a life of torment, trying to decide whether a girl likes them or not based on minuscule signs such as hand shaking or eye contact or, in your case, "hello"'s.
Just grab your balls and talk to her. Don't say "you don't say hi anymore" - that shows two things:
1) You may be desperate for her because you are showing you want her to acknowledge you and are concerned when she doesn't
2) You are over-analytical.
Just strike up a conversation about anything. "How you been lately?" "What you been up to?" It's that simple.
One of the most common misconceptions I'm beginning to see here is that so many people put girls on such an outrageously high pedestal, like they are superhuman or even some sort of goddess.
Sound ridiculous? It's true. Realize that girls are just ****ing HUMANS. They're just like me and you, except with boobs.
Okay? They're human. A lot of girls I know are very nice people perfectly capable of striking up an engaging conversation with. Some are funny, some are hot, some are nice, some are all three. Just because you've met one chick who's a total BPD stuck-up ***** doesn't mean all are. Stop generalizing. Are you going to make assumptions on some 3.5 billion other girls based on your experiences with ONE out of 3.5 billion? **** no.
Stop worrying about what you're going to say. It's in my genetics, in yours, and in hers, to be capable of friendliness and putting up a good conversation. Just talk. There are no techniques and for the love of god DON'T ASK US TO GIVE YOU ANY. Stop using lines/techniques as crutches. What happens AFTER you deliver the line? You don't know where to go because the line is all you had. Even worse, what if it bombs and doesn't work?
You have to figure things out for yourself. There is no magic bullet, no magic line, no special technique. Seduction, as well as life in general, is a battle fought 95% in the mind. Just ****ing BELIEVE in yourself as a man, as a man with capability. In a self-fulfilling prophecy, "as you think, you shall become". Don't question yourself. If you do, I guarantee you will fail. Don't doubt. Just GO WITH IT. Do not question intuition, your gut, your conscience, whatever you wanna call it. You are already everything you want to be and have everything you want to have. You just don't believe you do or just haven't seen yourself do it yet. This is true. You've already come to this forum asking for advice. That tells me a lot about you. That shows that you're eager to change and improve.
I'm expecting a follow-up post on this tomorrow from you.
Go out there and ****ing seize the moment.
You're overthinking here.
Read your question back to yourself.
You're stressing about some hot chick saying HELLO to you, then passing by and not saying it the second time. A hello is a GREETING, and a friendly one at that. Nothing more. It has no meaning beyond that which you give to it. It's a ****ing word, a sign of acknowledgement. It's just that.
You're over-analyzing here and that is one of THE WORST possible things you can do. I have seen many a man overanalyze a situation and a girl's behaviour, only to be brutally rejected, or live a life of torment, trying to decide whether a girl likes them or not based on minuscule signs such as hand shaking or eye contact or, in your case, "hello"'s.
Just grab your balls and talk to her. Don't say "you don't say hi anymore" - that shows two things:
1) You may be desperate for her because you are showing you want her to acknowledge you and are concerned when she doesn't
2) You are over-analytical.
Just strike up a conversation about anything. "How you been lately?" "What you been up to?" It's that simple.
One of the most common misconceptions I'm beginning to see here is that so many people put girls on such an outrageously high pedestal, like they are superhuman or even some sort of goddess.
Sound ridiculous? It's true. Realize that girls are just ****ing HUMANS. They're just like me and you, except with boobs.
Okay? They're human. A lot of girls I know are very nice people perfectly capable of striking up an engaging conversation with. Some are funny, some are hot, some are nice, some are all three. Just because you've met one chick who's a total BPD stuck-up ***** doesn't mean all are. Stop generalizing. Are you going to make assumptions on some 3.5 billion other girls based on your experiences with ONE out of 3.5 billion? **** no.
Stop worrying about what you're going to say. It's in my genetics, in yours, and in hers, to be capable of friendliness and putting up a good conversation. Just talk. There are no techniques and for the love of god DON'T ASK US TO GIVE YOU ANY. Stop using lines/techniques as crutches. What happens AFTER you deliver the line? You don't know where to go because the line is all you had. Even worse, what if it bombs and doesn't work?
You have to figure things out for yourself. There is no magic bullet, no magic line, no special technique. Seduction, as well as life in general, is a battle fought 95% in the mind. Just ****ing BELIEVE in yourself as a man, as a man with capability. In a self-fulfilling prophecy, "as you think, you shall become". Don't question yourself. If you do, I guarantee you will fail. Don't doubt. Just GO WITH IT. Do not question intuition, your gut, your conscience, whatever you wanna call it. You are already everything you want to be and have everything you want to have. You just don't believe you do or just haven't seen yourself do it yet. This is true. You've already come to this forum asking for advice. That tells me a lot about you. That shows that you're eager to change and improve.
I'm expecting a follow-up post on this tomorrow from you.
Go out there and ****ing seize the moment.
well it wasnt just a random hi. day 1 she initiated the convo and it went on for a good amount of time. her body language and eye contact were good. day 2 she looked happy to see me and said hi. saw me again that same day from a distance away. she yelled "hey iCatch!" i dont think she was just being friendly by going out of her way to say that. i wasn't even near her. i was at a distance and she saw me and yelled out. day 3 we see each other and make eye contact but she had no expression on her face. wtf
jeffthechef
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i was like you before..overanalyzing...thinking: what do i do, why did she do that, when should i do this, how should i do this, what if she reacts like that...
DONT
it won't do jack apple cactus ****
you won't be able to plan everything..and as much as you would like to think you can..you can't..ive tried many times...
what you hsould do...
go up to her say hi and talk...not too long..flirt..kino a little..leave on a high note
don't worry about the consequences..there are none..and if you don't believe me...then i can give you a post on buddhist philosophy that will confuse the **** out of you..but it makes sense
DONT
it won't do jack apple cactus ****
you won't be able to plan everything..and as much as you would like to think you can..you can't..ive tried many times...
what you hsould do...
go up to her say hi and talk...not too long..flirt..kino a little..leave on a high note
don't worry about the consequences..there are none..and if you don't believe me...then i can give you a post on buddhist philosophy that will confuse the **** out of you..but it makes sense
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.